difference between 15 thru 17 expedition and previous rentals

[fordexpylvr]

I am looking at 15 thru 17 Expeditions and probably will purchase sometime in the future and would like to know if there is a difference in the engines, transmissions or suspensions between these years. I have rented several thru the last few years and love the ride of the EL better than the reg one. I see the carfax on everyone I see and about 95% appear to be previous rentals. That concerns me some as people who rent them don't always give them the best care. Should I try to stay away from rentals?

 

[GreenSub]

I'm in the same boat. The asking price for these previous rentals are pretty steep and i personally wouldn't pay $30k + for a rental vehicle. I had better luck finding "personal use" in the years prior to 2014. And I'm trying to find out if the suspension on prior to 2014 are same as 2015 and up. If so, i'll go with the 2014 as the extra power and mpg with EcoBoost doesn't matter to me as much.

 

[JExpedition07]

It looks like you are asking if within the 15-17 model years if there are major differences, nope same trans and engine.

 

[Dorzak]

Carfax lists all fleet models as previous rental. That being said I have purchased previous rentals including my 2016. These tend to be the more expensive to rental per day so aren’t rented as much, or by the same crowd. Rentals also tend to either be really base model or upgraded. My 2016 XLT has the option group 202A which adds all the features I would want. It had about 20k on it before dealer used it as a dealer driven vehicle.

 

[J Ski]

I'm in the same boat. The asking price for these previous rentals are pretty steep and i personally wouldn't pay $30k + for a rental vehicle. I had better luck finding "personal use" in the years prior to 2014. And I'm trying to find out if the suspension on prior to 2014 are same as 2015 and up. If so, i'll go with the 2014 as the extra power and mpg with EcoBoost doesn't matter to me as much.

14 and older have different type of shock mounts for the front suspension. older models have one horizonal mount the connects shock to the LCA whereas newer models have two that run vertically through LCA. Everything else is pretty much the same. Different gears available for transmission depending on what package you get

 

[GreenSub]

14 and older have different type of shock mounts for the front suspension. older models have one horizonal mount the connects shock to the LCA whereas newer models have two that run vertically through LCA. Everything else is pretty much the same. Different gears available for transmission depending on what package you get

Does the shock mounts have any effect on the way it rides?

 

[star-art]

I just posted a rather detailed description about ride differences in this thread:

Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015?

Another difference I just discovered about 2015-17 models is that 2017 EL 4WD trucks come with a limited-slip rear axle. As far as I know, that was never available on older models. According to the Ford sales brochure, it was not available on any Expedition in 2015 or 2016. That is why I am now narrowing my search to just 2017 trucks.

 

[Trainmaster]

I believe the rentals are a good way to buy a late model, low mileage car. The rental companies get steep discounts and that's usually passed on to you. The majority of depreciation has been paid by the rental owner, but the car's not aged much.

You are also assured that proper maintenance has been done. Short term buyers very often never bother changing the oil. All that being said, it's quite difficult to find a newer car used with low mileage privately. People just don't part with $60K cars after a couple of years.

 

[fordexpylvr]

Thank you I guess I never saw it from that view.

 

[Black]

Here is a 5 page thread on purchasing rental/fleet vehicles.
http://www.expeditionforum.com/threads/purchasing-a-used-2017-el-rentals.35292/

You are seeing a huge influx in 15-17 rental/fleet vehicles for sale because the 2018s are out and lots of folks are renewing their fleet with the new line.

Great deals to be had purchasing rentals.
I got a 2016 with 46k and a lifetime powertrain guaruntee for way under 30k.

 

[fordexpylvr]

Thank you very much! I read them all and learned a lot!

 

[J Ski]

Does the shock mounts have any effect on the way it rides?

Nope

 

[JExpedition07]

I just posted a rather detailed description about ride differences in this thread:

Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015?

Another difference I just discovered about 2015-17 models is that 2017 EL 4WD trucks come with a limited-slip rear axle. As far as I know, that was never available on older models. According to the Ford sales brochure, it was not available on any Expedition in 2015 or 2016. That is why I am now narrowing my search to just 2017 trucks.

Did 2017 lose the braking bias assisted 4WD? That’s what kept the limited slip out of the expedition was the two systems would be fighting back and forth. Expeditions equipped with advancetrac didn’t get a limited slip rear but it could be optioned on them without before.

 

[star-art]

That's a good question! I sure hope this option is an improvement and not an attempt to cut corners. I may be about to pull the trigger on a 2017 so I'd sure like to know! I'll start a new thread with this question so maybe we can get some more eyes on it. . .

 

[JExpedition07]

That's a good question! I sure hope this option is an improvement and not an attempt to cut corners. I may be about to pull the trigger on a 2017 so I'd sure like to know! I'll start a new thread with this question so maybe we can get some more eyes on it. . .

Either way I’m sure you’ll be fine. Both systems are there to achieve the same thing..... the only reason I raise this question is if that’s the case you’d only have that “limited slip” effect on the rear vs on both front and rear with the braking bias.

The limited slip is designed to start sending a percentage of power to the wheel with traction when slip starts

The braking bias senses slippage and applies friction to the slipping wheel forcing the conventional open diff to throw a percentage power to the wheel with traction, this has been one of the signatures of the control trac II system. Both are achieving the same thing in the end.... you can now see why these two systems don’t play nicely together.

 

[Habbibie]

I am looking at 15 thru 17 Expeditions and probably will purchase sometime in the future and would like to know if there is a difference in the engines, transmissions or suspensions between these years. I have rented several thru the last few years and love the ride of the EL better than the reg one. I see the carfax on everyone I see and about 95% appear to be previous rentals. That concerns me some as people who rent them don't always give them the best care. Should I try to stay away from rentals?

The expedition is a premium rental, kids and tire beaters don't rent those but more of a higher age more mature crowd does, also previous rentals are usually some of the best up to date maintenance cars on the market if you can get past the dull colors

 

[fordexpylvr]

Thank you!!

 

[cmiles97]

I purchased a 17 EL XLT that was a rental or fleet vehicle. It had 29,000 miles on it which means I have some Ford warranty left plus purchased an extended one just in case. So far it's been flawless. Considering the price of new ones, I'm fine with a rental for such a steep discount.

 

[fordexpylvr]

thank you. the miles are good on yours some have been over the 40k range I have seen

 

[cmiles97]

Check out Carmax's website for price and option research. If there's one near you, they will ship one from any of their other lots for a fee. I used it for comparison shopping. Ultimately an independent local dealer gave me the best offer but the sheer amount of Expeditions they have was worth the research time.

Not sure if this link will work. Its a search of all Expedition EL with 4wd from 2006 to present.

https://www.carmax.com/search#Dista...294963136+4294962578+788&SortKey=14&Zip=35244