EXPY Tunes

[5150 pops]

That area of Mexico resembles McKinney, TX U.S. 75 a little bit.

There's a lot more highway lanes than when I lived in Allen, so I guess it's just a coincidence...

Yeah that's stock as can be.

Personally, I don't need more boost lol....

Just a casual 70psi in Mexico with a speedometer out of calibration....

 

[Mike Wolfe]

I have to agree. A Hennessy supercharged Yukon Denali making 805 HP and 812 TQ (at flywheel), does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. Yukon Denali is close in weight to an Expedition.

I would say mid 5 second 0-60 times are more realistic for even the most aggressive ecoboost tune out there.

http://hennesseyperformance.com/veh...gmc-yukon-denali-hpe800-supercharged-upgrade/



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FYI
A stock 2018 NAVIGATOR will do 5.4 second 0-60 Times
Proof is on another thread on this forum

 

[Mike Wolfe]

I have to agree. A Hennessy supercharged Yukon Denali making 805 HP and 812 TQ (at flywheel), does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. Yukon Denali is close in weight to an Expedition.

I would say mid 5 second 0-60 times are more realistic for even the most aggressive ecoboost tune out there.

http://hennesseyperformance.com/veh...gmc-yukon-denali-hpe800-supercharged-upgrade/



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0-60 About the same as my 2013 SHO Taurus with pp & livernois tune
Taurus rated at 475 hp with 93 octane tune & 3 bar map
stock 2018 navigator does 0-60mph in 5.4 seconds with 3:31 gears & 400 lbs more weight than my 2018 EXPY
There is a thread on this forum supporting that
From the Car and Driver road test. Lincoln Navigator 0-60 5.4 seconds. Quarter mile 14.0 seconds at 100mph

https://www.caranddriver.com/review...th-review-performance-and-driving-impressions
Our 2018 EXPY has HD Tow & FX4 with 3:73 gears
Tune can easily add 100hp & 100lb ft of torque or more
If I could find a cheap way to get accurate 0-60 MPH times I would do it
Not going to spend an additional $300-$400 to prove it to the nay sayers on here though
So you are welcome to dispute what I feel in the seat of my pants & that is it is nearly as fast as my Taurus
So all this "IT AIN'T POSSIBLE" talk doesn't deter me from sharing my experience
Just wish another party would pop for the 5 Star 93 octane/tow calibration
You would truly see what I am experiencing

 

[JExpedition07]

MotorTrend says the Navigator tested at 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.

 

[Mike Wolfe]

MotorTrend says the Navigator tested at 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.

Sorry look at the data on the link
Car & Driver got 0-60MPH in 5.4 seconds right on their chart

 

[JExpedition07]

Looks like car and driver is incorrect because other credible sources did not get those times. Ford does not claim that time, MotorTrend disagrees. Still very impressive for its weight to propel this quick.

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Well I guess that is your choice
I choose to believe the 5.4
Our EXPY was way faster than our company Escalades stock
Now with 5 star 93 octane performance/tow software it would deifnitely & seriously blow their doors off

 

[edizzle]

even at 5.4, that tune didnt cut 1.4 seconds off the 0-60 times. you can say this feels like this, that does it in that........................means nothing. you are not getting to 60 in 4 seconds flat in an expedition with just a tune!!

the 2018 cayenne turbo has 550hp and weighs 1,100lbs less and does 0-60 in 4 flat for comparison.

to clarify, i am pro tuning, but your butt needs calibrating. your seat of the pants is off

 

[Uturn]

0-60 times are very subjective. There is a large weight difference between the standard Expedition 2WD and the Expedition Max with AWD and a moon roof, somewhere in the neighborhood of 500lbs. Want to cheat a little, removing the spare and tire change tools will get you close to a tenth. Even the rotational mass of the wheels and tires counts. Smaller wheels with larger tires weigh less than larger wheels and low profile tires of the same diameter. Fuel quality, launch rpm, altitude, barometric pressure, temperature, and humidity are just some of the factors that come in to play. How about break in? As vehicles break in, frictional loses are reduced and rings seal tighter increasing to the ground. Even two engines with the same hp rating will perform differently. Torque rise, width of the power band and rotational mass can make a big difference in how those engines will perform. The point I am trying to make is that with the variations in the Expeditions the 0-60 times will be all over the place and no one test will be the standard. Also, since it has been mentioned, increasing power to lower 0 to 60 times is exponential. Each tenth of a second will require an increasing amount of power.

 

[Blackscreen67]

0-60 times are very subjective. There is a large weight difference between the standard Expedition 2WD and the Expedition Max with AWD and a moon roof, somewhere in the neighborhood of 500lbs. Want to cheat a little, removing the spare and tire change tools will get you close to a tenth. Even the rotational mass of the wheels and tires counts. Smaller wheels with larger tires weigh less than larger wheels and low profile tires of the same diameter. Fuel quality, launch rpm, altitude, barometric pressure, temperature, and humidity are just some of the factors that come in to play. How about break in? As vehicles break in, frictional loses are reduced and rings seal tighter increasing to the ground. Even two engines with the same hp rating will perform differently. Torque rise, width of the power band and rotational mass can make a big difference in how those engines will perform. The point I am trying to make is that with the variations in the Expeditions the 0-60 times will be all over the place and no one test will be the standard. Also, since it has been mentioned, increasing power to lower 0 to 60 times is exponential. Each tenth of a second will require an increasing amount of power.

100lbs lost or gained equates to .10sec in either direction.

 

[Blackscreen67]

Just saying....

 

[edizzle]

http://hennesseyperformance.com/vehicles/lincoln/2018-lincoln-navigator-hpe600/

It has performance specs listed

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Argue all you want I am not backing down
Maybe the Hennessy unit weighs more & has a 3:31 axle
If & when I can find a inexpensive but accurate way to check 0-60 mph times I will
While I can't find the HP & Torque specs for a 2018 EXPY, I can find them for a 2018 F150 with Livernois software
here it is, note that is wheel hp so that is about 540 cs hp & 550 lb ft Torque at the CS
Now figure the 0-60 with a 5800 lb vehicle with 3:73 axle, tire circumference, trans ratios & those specs above at 780 ft above sea level

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Found this link
stock F 150 with 3:55 gears does 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds with Livernois Calibrat
That is for 2015 3.5L with 6 speed & 3:55 gears stock vehicle except for tune

 

[Blackscreen67]

Argue all you want I am not backing down
Maybe the Hennessy unit weighs more & has a 3:31 axle
If & when I can find a inexpensive but accurate way to check 0-60 mph times I will
While I can't find the HP & Torque specs for a 2018 EXPY, I can find them for a 2018 F150 with Livernois software
here it is, note that is wheel hp so that is about 540 cs hp & 550 lb ft Torque at the CS
Now figure the 0-60 with a 5800 lb vehicle with 3:73 axle, tire circumference, trans ratios & those specs above at 780 ft above sea level

In your old thread I posted the dyno graphs for you....

Your tuning nets you around 510ho at the crank assuming since it's about 440 to the rear wheelzzzzz!

 

[Mike Wolfe]

So you figure 15% loss instead of 20%
Been using 20% for years
Of course that also varies a bit with axle ratios etc.

 

[JExpedition07]

http://hennesseyperformance.com/vehicles/lincoln/2018-lincoln-navigator-hpe600/

It has performance specs listed

4.8 seconds after upgrades, that seems reasonable.

Found this link
stock F 150 with 3:55 gears does 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds with Livernois Calibrat
That is for 2015 3.5L with 6 speed & 3:55 gears stock vehicle except for tune

Lol that is not 4.6 seconds!!!!!

 

[Blackscreen67]

So you figure 15% loss instead of 20%
Been using 20% for years
Of course that also varies a bit with axle ratios etc.

Yeah with the technology of torque management built into these software's, traction control, preloaded suspensions, and all wheel drive, the loss is reduced.

 

[Uturn]

I for one will not argue with claims, have seen many turn out to be true, unfortunately most are not. Now 510-530hp sounds good and is one claim I believe. Be careful trying to make comparisons. The Navigator's Raptor version of the 3.5 EcoBoost has a slightly lower 10.0 to 1 compression ratio compared to the Expeditions 10.5 to 1. Lower compression ratio allows more boost, hence more power. Also a 2015 F150 4WD crew cab is still 350lbs lighter than a 2018 Expedition 4WD std length. That being said, I would definitely like to see a posted 0-60 time, just not a firm believer in using a data logging app. Even a 5.0 second 0-60 time in an Expedition would give you bragging rights.

 

[Uturn]

For anyone who would like more info on 0-60 and quarter mile times here is a good source.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/