What to look for when buying a gen3 expy

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Arni Atlason

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I bought one month ago 2007 expedition EL limited.
Mine was misfiring under load no code, changed spark plugs and misfiring went away. I think it was original spark plugs 138000 miles.
Frame rotted passenger side behind front wheel, all taken care of.
Exhaust manifold leaking passenger side, 2 studs broken first port inside the head. Hell to fix but was able to do it.
brake didn't want to release, brake hose was almost closed because rust on a clamp.
nav DVD refuses to run, dont want to deal with it.
Paint flaking on hood and hatch, its new normal from Ford.

Other than that awesome car, luckily got it for great price.
 

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Arni,

Can you elaborate on the brake hose problem please? Where was this clamp that was causing the problem?

I just might have a similar issue. I replaced the front calipers, and although things have improved, I do think I'm still having some drag.

Thanks,
Paul


I bought one month ago 2007 expedition EL limited.
Mine was misfiring under load no code, changed spark plugs and misfiring went away. I think it was original spark plugs 138000 miles.
Frame rotted passenger side behind front wheel, all taken care of.
Exhaust manifold leaking passenger side, 2 studs broken first port inside the head. Hell to fix but was able to do it.
brake didn't want to release, brake hose was almost closed because rust on a clamp.
nav DVD refuses to run, dont want to deal with it.
Paint flaking on hood and hatch, its new normal from Ford.

Other than that awesome car, luckily got it for great price.
 

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Hi Paul,

This clamp holds the rubber hose from caliber to metal pipe.

This clamp started to rust and of course where it did hold the hose and started to ccrimp it.

So the opening on the hose was very little.

regards
Arni

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Arni,

Can you elaborate on the brake hose problem please? Where was this clamp that was causing the problem?

I just might have a similar issue. I replaced the front calipers, and although things have improved, I do think I'm still having some drag.

Thanks,
Paul
Hi Paul,

This clamp holds the rubber hose from caliber to metal pipe.

This clamp started to rust and of course where it did hold the hose and started to ccrimp it.

So the opening on the hose was very little.

You guys have to forgive, Im new and learning on this forum

regards
Arni

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Thanks for the reply. I didn't see it earlier (need to check my setting here). I replaced the front hoses on last week, and it totally fixed the problem :)

I was already pretty sure that the hoses were the cause, rather than the master cylinder, because the dragging was unequal between the left and right calipers, which are new.

I knew I was on the right track immediately, because when I disconnected the caliper end of the hoses first, no brake fluid leaked from the open end of the hose!!!!



Hi Paul,

This clamp holds the rubber hose from caliber to metal pipe.

This clamp started to rust and of course where it did hold the hose and started to ccrimp it.

So the opening on the hose was very little.

You guys have to forgive, Im new and learning on this forum

regards
Arni

18j1628_6-jpg.24938
 

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Bought my '07 about six weeks ago, from Florida, 118,000 miles. Had check engine light, cylinder 5 and passenger cat. Just cleaned up coil connection on plug and dealer replaced cat under good will. Truck is two wheel drive and is getting 16.5 in town and up to 17.9 on freeway. Will need tires soon and I picked up a set of plugs for it.
 

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Bought my "new" 2017 Limited 2/18. Issues included scratched driver's window (Ford at first refused to fix it), heated front seats cooled when they were supposed to heat, whistling noise from heating/cooling system blower, and missing wiper arm cover. All fixed.
 

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Bought my "new" 2017 Limited 2/18. Issues included scratched driver's window (Ford at first refused to fix it), heated front seats cooled when they were supposed to heat, whistling noise from heating/cooling system blower, and missing wiper arm cover. All fixed.
Hi,

I just bought a 2017 Expedition Limited a week ago, has approximately 10k mile or 17k kilometres for any fellow Canadians. I noticed something yesterday for the first time.

I had pulled my Expy into driveway to clean garage, left it there all day and it was 95F or 35C, going to store I used command start to pre cool interior. When I came out first thing I heard was engine was very loud, at first I thought it was over reaving so I turned off and restarted was idling normally. Went to store, on way home engine started making the loud noise again, rpm' showed normal so drove home noise still loud. I parked and and left running opened hood hood and identified the noise coming from the Cooling fan.

My question is it supposed to be so loud and why Is fan kicking in when expy was parked all day and not running.

Thanks, anyone else with a 2017 Expedition noticed this? I owned a 2015 F150 with 2.7l ecoboost and never ever had this happen and if my cooling fan did kick on it was so quiet I didn't notice it.
 
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Hi,

I just bought a 2017 Expedition Limited a week ago, has approximately 10k mile or 17k kilometres for any fellow Canadians. I noticed something yesterday for the first time.

I had pulled my Expy into driveway to clean garage, left it there all day and it was 95F or 35C, going to store I used command start to pre cool interior. When I came out first thing I heard was engine was very loud, at first I thought it was over reaving so I turned off and restarted was idling normally. Went to store, on way home engine started making the loud noise again, rpm' showed normal so drove home noise still loud. I parked and and left running opened hood hood and identified the noise coming from the Cooling fan.

My question is it supposed to be so loud and why Is fan kicking in when expy was parked all day and not running.

Thanks, anyone else with a 2017 Expedition noticed this? I owned a 2015 F150 with 2.7l ecoboost and never ever had this happen and if my cooling fan did kick on it was so quiet I didn't notice it.
Typically if the AC is running on any car the radiator fan will run full speed or close to it. Also keep in mind the high ambient temp so I would expect them to run full speed
 

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The fans on the Ecoboost can be alarmingly loud at times. I discovered this when driving my new (to me) '17 on a hot Summer day for the first time.
 

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Hello Everyone,

Well its time to upgrade my ride. Love my 03 XLT and I have 320,000 mostly trouble free miles on her but she's starting to show her age. I'm now looking for a 3rd gen Extended Length and was hoping for some insight on what's good and what to watch out for.

Thank you all,

Bob
 

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Buying one right now, I'd get a 2017 with the lowest mileage you can find. Get a loaded XLT with the 202A package -- or, if you can afford the fancier trim levels, a Limited, King Ranch, or Platinum. Avoid any truck from Canada, the Midwest, or the Northeast. Or, be sure to inspect thoroughly for rust underneath. Pay particular attention to the rocker panels. Also, it seems some 2017 model have water leaks mainly due to issues with drains for the moonroof. The best ride quality comes from the CCD suspension option. This is standard on Platinum but rare on King Ranch and Limited. If there's one option I wish I had that I don't have on my truck, it's CCD. . .
 

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Continuously Controlled Dampening. This is a technology that's been around for a while, particularly at GM, but is only very slowly making its way into Ford products. Not only does it make the ride much smoother, it also provides driver-selectable ride control. Thus, you can select between "comfort," "normal," and "sport" modes.
 

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CCD was a standalone option. All trucks with CCD have specific 22-inch wheels.

As I recall, for 2015-16 CCD was optional on Limited, King Ranch, and Platinum. It was most commonly seen on Platinums. It was available but rare on King Ranch and it was an ultra-rare option for Limited models

For 2017, CCD became standard on Platinum but some vehicles had this option "deleted" if a "load-leveling rear suspension" was ordered. 2017 Platinums with load-leveling rear shocks were equipped with 20-inch 2015 Platinum wheels.

CCD is also known as "Lincoln Drive" and was an available option on Navigator models. Most Navigators that have it come with 22-inch wheels but some Navigators got CCD with 20-inch wheels.

As previously stated, *all* Expeditions that have CCD will also have 22-inch wheels. If a truck you are looking at has smaller wheels, it won't have CCD -- even if it's a 2017 Platinum where CCD was supposedly standard equipment.
 

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I’m currently shopping for a 2017 model EL and I want to make sure the vehicle has the max tow package with the 3.73 axle. Most dealers can’t tell me with certainty if their vehicle has it and I haven’t had luck with VIN decoders having that detail.

Are their certain features that I should see that we’re unique to the max tow package?


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According to the 2017 brochure, 3.73 Limited-Slip axle is standard on EL models. Heavy-duty trailer tow is standard on all models except XLT (and, likely, SSV or XL base models). Heavy-duty trailer tow is part of the 202A package on XLT which also includes heated and cooled front seats, memory seats, power tilt-and-telescoping steering column, 8-inch display with SYNC 3, dual-zone climate control, ambient lighting, power liftgate, and power-fold 3rd row seats.
 

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I’m currently shopping for a 2017 model EL and I want to make sure the vehicle has the max tow package with the 3.73 axle. Most dealers can’t tell me with certainty if their vehicle has it and I haven’t had luck with VIN decoders having that detail.

Are their certain features that I should see that we’re unique to the max tow package?


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The axle code is on the door sticker, although iirc all EL's had 3.73 axles no?

Other easily visible tow-related options will be the 7-pin trailer hookup in the back and the presence/absence of a trailer brake controller (under vent to the right of the steering wheel)
 
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