John Schwab
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Just tuned my 2016 Platinum EL. 5 Star 93 perf. Smokes my 35s effortlessly
About a 100hp and torque tonthe wheels
About a 100hp and torque tonthe wheels
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Tuning the ecoboost
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The EcoBoost IS tuned for 91 octane. It de-tunes for cheap gas(87). There is no way you gain 100hp, by adjusting timing, changing fuel mixture, eliminating the knock sensor and deleting the rev limiter. The engine max hp never changes, it just makes it differently. The turbo boost can't be changed electronically. It runs off the exhaust. It can only boost and fast as its driven. The stock, single exhaust, can not support such HP. In the Mustang the 'Boss" engine makes more power, from a different intake. Lincoln Town Car cars, were offered with a dual exhaust option and made more power than the single version.
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John Schwab
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I think you need to do some more research. Look at the dyno graphs on 5 Star website showing the gains. I’m pushing 19.7 lbs of boost easily with it sometimes getting into the low 20s. Until you tune yours, I ask that you not doubt research and do some of your own.
John Schwab
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@rjdelp7 and you drive a 2000 sport....
John Schwab
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@rjdelp7 are you one of those ppl that don’t have nice things like other ppl and every time someone says something or does something to their truck that you can’t do or afford you bash them in jealousy?
John Schwab
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@rjdelp7 
So your telling me this graph is all a lie? Stock truck with 93 perf tune only... what do you have to say about this graph now
So your telling me this graph is all a lie? Stock truck with 93 perf tune only... what do you have to say about this graph now
John Schwab
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@rjdelp7 5 Star does a lot more than just adjusting timing and tuning for fuel mixture. Their websites expli s everything they do so head on over to 5startuning.com over you coffee this morning and read
Nonsense, I own 3 vehicles and a Harley. I have researched this. I actually own a performance car(Mustang GT, plenty info on them), not like these wannabe, suv Hot Rodders. I am not bashing anyone. But calling out ridiculous post, stating 100-325hp gains form tuning. Mustang owners, love how there car drives after tuning. The engines are not making that much more hp. The HP wars between Ford and Chevy, have squeezed every bit out of these engines. No way they are leaving untapped power behind. My 2011 GT 5.0l uses/requires 91 octane. Its factory tuned for it. My Lincoln 32V 4.6l uses 91. Both will de-tune for 87 octane. It has been covered numerous times in this forum, that the ecoBoost recommends, 91 or higher for towing and advertised power. Ford lied to buyers, with HP/Torq rating. On 87 pump gas, its way lower.
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John Schwab
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They are definitely leaving untapped power as I’m pushing 8-10 more lbs of boost out of mine than stock which correlated to increase HP and torque ratings. Just because it’s rated at xHP doesn’t mean that’s all it can get. You seem to just be jealous and misinformed. You seem to be a member that nobody takes advice from anyhow from my search in your posts
Have a merry Christmas though, nice talking to you
How is this 'boost' accomplished? The 2 stage, turbos on these engines, are very small in diameter. This was intentional, to eliminate lag. They can only push, so much air and spin, so fast. Its a stock, factory V6, in a large SUV. Why are you pushing the limits on it? You actually made a video, beating the piss out of it? Its not a sports car.
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Your right I am jealous...of your V6 Expedition? That's funny! I never would consider buying one. That is why I kept my reliable 1st gen, work horse so long. Ford ruined the Expedition.
John Schwab
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Go look at 3.5L and even 2.7s F150s being tuned and how much some of these engines are gaining. The 2.5 bar MAP sensors can handle up to 21.5psi of boost. Stock these things are only pushing 11-12. Like I’ve said I’m easily in 18-19 range daily driving on occasion in the very low 20s. And like I’ve said also, go research how they increase the boost for added power. CAI (installed), turbo adapters, downpipes and custom exhaust are soon to be on my truck as well which will only add more power.
https://5startuning.com/got-2015-f150-3-5l-v6-ecoboost/
Go read, and educate yourself on a real expedition not that rust bucket 1st gen
JExpedition07
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See OP, what did I tell ya 
. WWIII has started.
Don’t know anyone who is jealous of a used V6 Expedition but ok. A 1st gen Expedition isn’t a real one? News to me.
. WWIII has started.Don’t know anyone who is jealous of a used V6 Expedition but ok. A 1st gen Expedition isn’t a real one? News to me.
John Schwab
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Thts not beating the piss out of it, that’s driving it and having fun. Look I’m sorry you can’t afford an ecoboost expedition. Don’t put other ppl down bc they have cooler things than you. My truck is what I want, not what you want. I could care less about your opinion seeing as how you don’t even own and ecoboost expedition and have zero clue on how “boost” is achieved. Bye bye
John Schwab
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I remember youSee OP, what did I tell ya
Don’t know anyone who is jealous of a used V6 Expedition but ok. A 1st gen Expedition isn’t a real one? News to me.
JExpedition07
That One Member
Don’t care, don’t know who you are. Your rude and ruining a perfectly good thread, now go to bed.
John Schwab
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@JExpedition07 The OP asked if you can tune a 4th gen. I simply stated I tuned my 2016 and this turd comes in and tries to tell me dyno graphs lie. How am I ruining it
JExpedition07
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You’ll be able to tune it up past 400 hp with a reputable company and reliably. As you can see your thread turned into a battle ground. Ford lightly turns up the tune for Platinum models but not much performance will be felt as they are the heaviest of the pack. Tuning can result in impressive gains, call up or email 5Star and I’m sure they’d explain it to you in detail.
Tuning can do a lot to change it up. When my dad took delivery of his last Super Duty 6.2L in 2011 the ECM was bad out of the box. The dealer replaced it under warranty of course and added the aggressive raptor tuning and shift schedule (he knows the guys). They said it went from 385 to 400 horsepower but the entire mapping was more aggressive and the thing flew. They didn’t get up to Raptor specs because they use a more aggressive camshaft in F-150 6.2 engines. You can do a lot with tuning, and it involves a lot more than just more power. They can adjust shifts, firmness, etc. it’s cool stuff.
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John Schwab
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And Thts 400hp Engine hp. Probably low to mid 300s to the wheel as several dynos have shown there is roughly a 20% loss in power from engine to the wheels
JExpedition07
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The difference will be felt. He had that 2011 for 5 years and replaced it with a 2016 6.2.
The new truck shifts at 5,500 RPM whereas the 2011 shifted at 6,000-6,100 RPM after Ford reflashed it. The 11’ shifted right at redline and then firmly shifted into the next gear. The 2016 with the stock Super Duty mapping is noticeably lazier than the last. It’s still no slouch the 6.2 moves but it isn’t as fast as the last one.
My point is yes, would notice a difference and if you want that then it will be worth it. On a forced induction engine tuning can add a lot of gains, just be careful! Some companies push the limits and have engine failures caused. That’s why I’d recommend. 5Star, many have been happy with them.
The new truck shifts at 5,500 RPM whereas the 2011 shifted at 6,000-6,100 RPM after Ford reflashed it. The 11’ shifted right at redline and then firmly shifted into the next gear. The 2016 with the stock Super Duty mapping is noticeably lazier than the last. It’s still no slouch the 6.2 moves but it isn’t as fast as the last one.
My point is yes, would notice a difference and if you want that then it will be worth it. On a forced induction engine tuning can add a lot of gains, just be careful! Some companies push the limits and have engine failures caused. That’s why I’d recommend. 5Star, many have been happy with them.
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