It’s most likely oil, or both liquid and oil Like I said, it uses both liquid and oil to cool the ecoboost turbos. Going in tomorrow for warranty replacement. I’ve already reported @rjdelp7 once before for offering false information and trash talking ppl. Ive been banned before for this and not sure why he hasn’t yet. will be doing it again tonight
Turbo coolant leak issue now on wifes 2016
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Read myth number 4 and follow the link. This is legitimate research for ecoboosts. Again you are just going off what you think you may know.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/common-myths-about-ecoboost-165949/
Well
Well, ok then, sounds like another reason not buy one. Looks like the driver side fix, requires removal of the intake manifold. A $900 job and passenger side failure, soon to follow.This ******* match is getting ridiculous..
Your statement is kind of like assuming water cooling an internal combustion engine runs coolant through the combustion chamber, which would quickly evaporate it..
The Turbo bearings run in oil, like the pistons use oil for lubrication and cooling, and the turbo's housing has coolant passages, like the engine block does..
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=water+cooling+turbos
It’s not the turbo, it’s an oring on either the coolant or oil return line. Probably cost them $.09 for the part and it’s under factory warranty
Confirmed it’s oil, cleaned everything up and have it out for a test drive see if it’s a leak good enough to see while it’s running hot. If not, they will be adding dye to it to see where it’s coming from
Myth#6, V6 fuel mileage, closer to a modern V8 in real world driving. Myth#7, Ford has worked all the 'bugs' out of it. Myth#8, people will choose it, over the V8(given the option) Myth#9, synthetic oil not required Myth#10, produces 'advertised power' on 87 octane myth#11, maintenance - it needs more and religious(oil changes, plugs, carbon issues) myth #12, Ford leading pack with this engine. GM and Ram sales up and steady with push rod V8s.
That thread was from 7 years ago... we know they have worked to fix some of these issues
stamp11127
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To those responding to this thread, if you feel the need to degrade a member then take it to a "conversation" instead of posting it in a public forum. That includes mispelling of known colorful words that are degrading.
Everyone has their opinion and are allowed to express it here - keep it professional and clean.
Everyone has their opinion and are allowed to express it here - keep it professional and clean.
jeff kushner
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I didn't bother to read the last page here but have a pretty good idea the discussion. You guys know that I have a turbo or supercharged everything....I know how these machines work and understand the differences in the various types. I have also rebuilt turbo's. They are really VERY simple machines, yet very complex only in that the weight of the moving parts must be balanced to a CH(a blonde one). If the supply of oil is volumulas(?) enough and at the correct pressures, since the "bearing" is oil....the turbine/impeller assembly will last a very, very long time.
Turbos placed near the exh manifold do get hot, very hot....I have seen them glow red in the dark. Any questions on heat? YET, because of the magical cooling properties of oil, they are able to function even while glowing red.
It's the same principle of heat shedding....it you wrap a big wad of wet paper towels around a copper plumbing joint, you will not be able to heat the joint enough to melt the solder(453F), even with a turbo-torch because the heat shedding of the wet towels....same thing happens in the turbo bearings....it does not burn the oil but intense heat does reduce it's total ability dramatically, which is why it is cooled so well.
The engineers even 40-50 years ago were pretty good at measuring heat-load. Superchargers were mounted in every WWII fighter worth it's salt......including 12 cyl radial monsters and that was over 70 years ago......
I think this kinda makes everyone a little right...and probably a little wrong too....
I was really fortunate to have been taken under a tuners wing when I raced bikes in the '70s..he taught me that myths are dispelled by personal experience. Hell, we made a Kawasaki H2 triple, TURN! ....but it was pretty philosophical stuff from an old, beat-up motorcycle mechanic. The guy was a fricken genius....
We ALL learn....at different rates and our intelligence is based off the databank we call life-experience....as I get older it's easier to see that I didn't really have to be a dick to someone who might be learning a bit slower......
jeff
Turbos placed near the exh manifold do get hot, very hot....I have seen them glow red in the dark. Any questions on heat? YET, because of the magical cooling properties of oil, they are able to function even while glowing red.
It's the same principle of heat shedding....it you wrap a big wad of wet paper towels around a copper plumbing joint, you will not be able to heat the joint enough to melt the solder(453F), even with a turbo-torch because the heat shedding of the wet towels....same thing happens in the turbo bearings....it does not burn the oil but intense heat does reduce it's total ability dramatically, which is why it is cooled so well.
The engineers even 40-50 years ago were pretty good at measuring heat-load. Superchargers were mounted in every WWII fighter worth it's salt......including 12 cyl radial monsters and that was over 70 years ago......
I think this kinda makes everyone a little right...and probably a little wrong too....
I was really fortunate to have been taken under a tuners wing when I raced bikes in the '70s..he taught me that myths are dispelled by personal experience. Hell, we made a Kawasaki H2 triple, TURN! ....but it was pretty philosophical stuff from an old, beat-up motorcycle mechanic. The guy was a fricken genius....
We ALL learn....at different rates and our intelligence is based off the databank we call life-experience....as I get older it's easier to see that I didn't really have to be a dick to someone who might be learning a bit slower......
jeff
Cleaned the turbo off and everywhere around it, took it out for 30 minutes, cane back and noticed it slightly leaking around the oil service and return interface on the housing. Gasket in there was the culprit. Parts in on Friday to be buttoned up and it’ll be back on the road
stamp11127
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Rode an H2 a little back in the 70's when I was a teenager. Scared the living snot out of me so much I came back with a sheet eat'in grin......wasn't called the Widow Maker for the heck of it.
All you had to do was up the carbs 2mm, put on a set of Denco chambers and you ran 10 flat in the 1/4 - if you could hold on long enough. And this was 70's technology and white gas.
Ring, ding, ding......
And for all you other ol'timers that want to reminisce. Watch the tach when it hits 7000+:
All you had to do was up the carbs 2mm, put on a set of Denco chambers and you ran 10 flat in the 1/4 - if you could hold on long enough. And this was 70's technology and white gas.
Ring, ding, ding......
And for all you other ol'timers that want to reminisce. Watch the tach when it hits 7000+:
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jeff kushner
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That's my friends bike Stamp! Rick is actually out at AMA Vintage days in Ohio today.....where I SHOULD be instead of in the office. For those who might not know, Rick is considered WORLDWIDE to be thee guru when it comes to the production/sales of the entire Triples line. He recently married/moved to the States and sold his collection last summer to finance retirement. A cadre of Brits invades the US each year at this time to go to the event where we usually camp all weekend.
The cult is still alive and well and Stamp pretty well nailed it as to how easy it was to make a the fastest stock bike in the world back then, stupid fast!
http://s808.photobucket.com/user/jeffkushner1/library/
You'll find a couple bikes the library & albums if you like the old stuff....."befores", lot of build pics, "afters", etc. I couldn't find 1 vid where my '74 H2b rocket engine actually compresses the rear suspension when you stand next to it and rev it.....a real beast! Me thinks PB removed my vids to get me closer to the "free" ceiling.
Sorry for the Hijack OP!
jeff
The cult is still alive and well and Stamp pretty well nailed it as to how easy it was to make a the fastest stock bike in the world back then, stupid fast!
http://s808.photobucket.com/user/jeffkushner1/library/
You'll find a couple bikes the library & albums if you like the old stuff....."befores", lot of build pics, "afters", etc. I couldn't find 1 vid where my '74 H2b rocket engine actually compresses the rear suspension when you stand next to it and rev it.....a real beast! Me thinks PB removed my vids to get me closer to the "free" ceiling.
Sorry for the Hijack OP!
jeff
Erzebet
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I just happened to check that part number online and it's already been discontinued.
Ford Part No.: FL3Z-9G441-B
Tube Assembly
Part Description Tube Assy
Manufacturer Ford. This genuine Ford part is guaranteed by Ford's factory warranty.
Manufacturer's Notes
This part is discontinued. It is no longer available for purchase.
Ford Part No.: FL3Z-9G441-B
Tube Assembly
Part Description Tube Assy
Manufacturer Ford. This genuine Ford part is guaranteed by Ford's factory warranty.
Manufacturer's Notes
This part is discontinued. It is no longer available for purchase.
Do you want to see my invoice?
That does not mean it has not been replaced with a new part number for an upgraded/changed part.
Also googling that part number only Ford Giant says it is discontinued. All the others including Ford show it available.
$30 part any idea how many hours of labor they would charge if not under warranty?
Erzebet
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I wasn't looking for your invoice as I am not questioning the fix you received. I just googled the part number you mentioned out of my own curiosity and found it odd that it was a discontinued part number for a part used on 2016-2018 EXPY and Transit models. Was wondering if I needed such a fix in the future - whether that part would be available for my truck. Glad you got your rig fixed. Good luck with it.
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