Owners of 2015-2017 Models - is yours reliable?

[16plati]

I think all of the 4wd '15-'17 EL's had LSD rears, and 3.73 gears, No?

Not sure Thts why I asked. His axle code will tell

 

[JExpedition07]

I think all of the 4wd '15-'17 EL's had LSD rears, and 3.73 gears, No?

No Limited slip available for 2015 models in the US

 

[Rodney Rodriguez]

I think all of the 4wd '15-'17 EL's had LSD rears, and 3.73 gears, No?

Yes, mine has LSD and 3.73 gear.

 

[16plati]

Yes, mine has LSD and 3.73 gear.

I’d bet money ur clutch packs are going. New carbon fiber packs, fluid change, and friction modifier = smooth as butter

 

[Rodney Rodriguez]

I’d bet money ur clutch packs are going. New carbon fiber packs, fluid change, and friction modifier = smooth as butter

Thanks for all the info!

 

[LokiWolf]

No Limited slip available for 2015 models in the US

Correct, but the Canadian 15 Max(Same as EL) had LS. That is why our 15 had it!


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[jeff kushner]

FWIW rodney.....ALL of my Expy's would feel like "the tires are rolling over themselves" or trying to climb the sidewall when making a 100% turn at crawling speeds. It never caused an issue in nearly 500K miles on them. I don't do it intentionally but it happens when doing uturns etc. no biggie....

jeff

 

[Erzebet]

Update: The dealer had my Expy for 3 days for the "Service Advancetrac" and "Hill Descent Control Faults" that appeared on my dash 2 days after the master cylinder & brake booster replacement. Dealer states they "found code C116a when they scanned. Technician followed ppt "g" 1-5. data logger test, remove and inspect brake light switch, reinstall, and set. Cleared codes, road tested and rechecked - condition resolved."

No error codes on the drive home, but I still feel that brake drag/shudder in that front drivers wheel. Time will tell. I will drive it a while and take it to another dealer to have the brake system/front left wheel checked out again just to be on the safe side.

Thanks all for your contributions to this thread.

 

[lbv150]

First off never buy a former rental....you know the snot was beat out of it. My '16 with 31,000 on it very reliable. Nothing so far only oil changes every 3000.

 

[LokiWolf]

Update: The dealer had my Expy for 3 days for the "Service Advancetrac" and "Hill Descent Control Faults" that appeared on my dash 2 days after the master cylinder & brake booster replacement. Dealer states they "found code C116a when they scanned. Technician followed ppt "g" 1-5. data logger test, remove and inspect brake light switch, reinstall, and set. Cleared codes, road tested and rechecked - condition resolved."

No error codes on the drive home, but I still feel that brake drag/shudder in that front drivers wheel. Time will tell. I will drive it a while and take it to another dealer to have the brake system/front left wheel checked out again just to be on the safe side.

Thanks all for your contributions to this thread.

Still good to go?


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[ynpmoose]

I got my 2016 in late 2016 with 28K miles (Certified pre-owned). It was actually a Ford internal fleet vehicle, as they left some paperwork in the glove box. I'm now at 70k and other than the rear diff clutch pack being replaced under warranty, this truck has needed nothing other than tires.

 

[MistressDeLuna]

Every Expedition we’ve ever owned was not only dependable but two were life saving!! We’ve had a 2000 xlt, 2005 EB 4x4, 2007 EB 4x4, 2015 KR 4x4 and to replace the king ranch we “settled” for a 2015 Navigator 4x4. The KR as I’ve mentioned in previous posts, saved our lives from a 85mph head on impact with a 1996 Mac Dump truck. Half of these vehicles were replaced due to someone hitting us. The others money was tight. None have been from performance. All have had very basic maintenance, we don’t count aesthetics, as we have six kids (luckily three are grown now) good luck

 

[adamsdaddy]

We bought our 2016 XLT with close to 37,000 miles on it - lease turn in. Very clean when purchased. The cold start rumbling idle - until it is warm is a minor issue. My only annoyance is with how hot the transmission gets while towing. Our Expy doesn't have the HD radiator or auxiliary tranny cooler. Towing to/from the Kern River saw temperatures in the 236 degree range at times. Trailer only weighs around 3,000 lbs. Kind of bothersome since they claim it'll tow thousands more.

I do love the power of the engine and the strength of the brakes. Much happier than when I had the V10 F350 Supercrew 4x4 w/4.30 rear end. 7.3 MPG towing a 5th wheel was a killer as was 11.3 MPG empty.

The satellite reception for Sirius is very poor. I can be right in the middle of the 5 freeway with nothing around and it’ll lose the signal. Much worse reception than the 2007 Odyssey

 

[coolzzy]

We bought our 2016 XLT with close to 37,000 miles on it - lease turn in. Very clean when purchased. The cold start rumbling idle - until it is warm is a minor issue. My only annoyance is with how hot the transmission gets while towing. Our Expy doesn't have the HD radiator or auxiliary tranny cooler. Towing to/from the Kern River saw temperatures in the 236 degree range at times. Trailer only weighs around 3,000 lbs. Kind of bothersome since they claim it'll tow thousands more.

I do love the power of the engine and the strength of the brakes. Much happier than when I had the V10 F350 Supercrew 4x4 w/4.30 rear end. 7.3 MPG towing a 5th wheel was a killer as was 11.3 MPG empty.

Add the transmission cooler, it is pretty easy to do. Towing 6k pounds in the mountains, my 17 EL never goes higher than 212 and only peaks there for a few seconds.

 

[Langer]

We bought our 2016 XLT with close to 37,000 miles on it - lease turn in. Very clean when purchased. The cold start rumbling idle - until it is warm is a minor issue. My only annoyance is with how hot the transmission gets while towing. Our Expy doesn't have the HD radiator or auxiliary tranny cooler. Towing to/from the Kern River saw temperatures in the 236 degree range at times. Trailer only weighs around 3,000 lbs. Kind of bothersome since they claim it'll tow thousands more.

I do love the power of the engine and the strength of the brakes. Much happier than when I had the V10 F350 Supercrew 4x4 w/4.30 rear end. 7.3 MPG towing a 5th wheel was a killer as was 11.3 MPG empty.

I had my trans cooler put on for about $200 including parts. Definitely worth it.

 

[B-McD]

I have a bit over 50K on the odometer and so far the only warranty work as been a grinding motor on the passenger side mirror. New mirror and good to go. About 6500 of the 50k of miles was towing a 30' travel trailer - all of that during summer months. Trans temp never went past about 206.

 

[dl2011ms3]

I ordered and bought a new 2015 Ford Expedition Limited 4x4. I have never towed with it or hauled heavy cargo - strictly passenger use. It has never been wrecked or damaged, and is garaged when not used.

When the vehicle was delivered with two miles, the left front wheel opening molding was installed crooked and not fully attached. The lower molding behind the LF wheel was also not attached. That should have been a warning to me not to accept the vehicle. I accepted the vehicle and the service department fixed the moldings - which are now coming off again.

The quality and reliability of the vehicles has been poor. Numerous things have gone wrong with the vehicle. I also purchased the Ford Premium extended warranty.

At times, the dealer warranty and maintenance service has been okay - other times it has been poor. I stopped going to the selling dealer for repair and maintenance work, due to their poor service (warranty and customer pay).

Two issues remain unresolved; intermittent “no key detected” and “trailer wiring fault” messages. I have returned it to the dealer several times, only to be told there are “no codes”. I’ve learned that most Ford “factory trained technicians” do not know how to troubleshoot a problem.

I have owned and driven vehicles for 49 years. This was my first Ford - I had owned GM and Dodge vehicles (GM for 45 years). I doubt that I would by another Ford due the issues I’ve experienced.

It is my PERSONAL OPINION that many new vehicle dealerships are doing very well since the last recession. They have sold many cars and their service departments are flush with business. They have gotten “fat, dumb and lazy” and often don’t care about customer service.

Many technicians in the service departments are very young and know that they can go somewhere else and find another service job. Many lack pride in their work. Many don’t care about doing the job right, and have no concept of customer service and repeat service customers. Excellent service keeps the service customers returning, buying additional vehicles and telling their friends and neighbors about the dealership. Poor service drives customers away and generates negative word-of-mouth advertising.

The major vehicle manufacturers continue to survey and wonder why their customers leave the dealerships for independent shops. They’ll figure it out when the next downturn in the economy hits and will be spending a lot of money trying to get customers to return to their dealer shops.

I bought a used 2016 Limited for my wife back in 2018. Had 61k on it, used as a company car for a traveling salesman. All maintenance was done and documented at the dealership.

So now on to how my car relates to yours.

While I had an issue the same as yours with the exact same warning lights in my dash. My problem was exponentially more severe. While driving the vehicle it would completely shut off and flash those same warnings along with a couple others.

Luckily this happened only while driving at low speed (sub 10mph) to my wife. But while the 2nd dealer was troubleshooting it the service manager had a butt-pucker at about 80mph when it happened to him on a major freeway in Houston, TX.

After that they finally called Ford and talked with an engineer.

Found that the problem was a bad Start/Run relay.

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[Dorzak]

As for reliability there are two groups of people on these forums. Those who show up wanting to know about their vehicles, and those who find this forum while having a problem. Look at how many new member introductions start by listing a problem. The majority of owners will never make it to these forums however reliable their vehicle is.

My 2016 bought CPO in January 2018 has been relatively trouble free. Getting close to 60,000 miles now. I had the tailgate paint bubbling and the SiriusXM antenna issue. Neither were major mechanical issues. Oil changes and gas. It is going to need tires and brakes soon.

 

[lbv150]

As for reliability there are two groups of people on these forums. Those who show up wanting to know about their vehicles, and those who find this forum while having a problem. Look at how many new member introductions start by listing a problem. The majority of owners will never make it to these forums however reliable their vehicle is.

My 2016 bought CPO in January 2018 has been relatively trouble free. Getting close to 60,000 miles now. I had the tailgate paint bubbling and the SiriusXM antenna issue. Neither were major mechanical issues. Oil changes and gas. It is going to need tires and brakes soon.

You are correct. The reason I joined was because of a used 2006 I bought with issues (only used vehicle I ever bought). Now I stick around to help others and to pick up some tips. My '04 and '16 no issues.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

I bought a used 2016 Limited for my wife back in 2018. Had 61k on it, used as a company car for a traveling salesman. All maintenance was done and documented at the dealership.

So now on to how my car relates to yours.

While I had an issue the same as yours with the exact same warning lights in my dash. My problem was exponentially more severe. While driving the vehicle it would completely shut off and flash those same warnings along with a couple others.

Luckily this happened only while driving at low speed (sub 10mph) to my wife. But while the 2nd dealer was troubleshooting it the service manager had a butt-pucker at about 80mph when it happened to him on a major freeway in Houston, TX.

After that they finally called Ford and talked with an engineer.

Found that the problem was a bad Start/Run relay.

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Would you have the part number from your repair invoice? Thank you.