Tow package for extra 4x4 worth it?

[Calidad]

I haven’t run my 2019 in the sierras in snow yet. But it has all the advanced systems I mentioned above. None of which fix really bad driving decisions. But when used right they should give you impressive capability. Course tires matter too.

 

[Plati]

Does anyone have any experience with "chains" or "cables" on these puppies for mountain driving?

I was just in Whitefish Montana and was told a LOT of people run studded tires out there in winter. I cant do that because I drive it across country to get there.

 

[Calidad]

I know my dealer told me under no conditions to run traction devices. I had to sign a Ford form to this effect also.

Get the best snow rated all season and drive smart. By law I have to carry traction devices in the Sierras but have never used them on my other 4x4 and awd vehicles. The Expedition will be the same way.

However!!! If you get stuck and need to claw your way out they only go on the rear tires!!!

 

[Rossue]

Bought a new Expy XLT with 202A as recommended by Edmund's & others. Almost bought one w/o HD Trailer then found one with and it was only $500 more. This was at the end of August with the almost $10K rebates for 4 x 2 XLT's. So for less than $50K I got what I wanted(even the 20" wheels I could passed on) to tow a 4500# travel trailer and after a recent 4K mile trip will say am glad to have that package. Got 14.5 mpg towing and get 22 hwy- not that it matters that much. With the 3.73 it is a rocket off the line!

 

[Meeker]

I know my dealer told me under no conditions to run traction devices. I had to sign a Ford form to this effect also.

Get the best snow rated all season and drive smart. By law I have to carry traction devices in the Sierras but have never used them on my other 4x4 and awd vehicles. The Expedition will be the same way.

However!!! If you get stuck and need to claw your way out they only go on the rear tires!!!

OK this is new to me - I have a full set of chains that I bought and tried once in my driveway on my 2006 Limited, and I was going to carry them in the 2018 XLT as well for mountain trips. Unfortunately I bought the ones in the picture and they are really too big for the clearances on this truck. The manual says it's rated for class S chains, 17 or 18 inch rims only, rear wheels only. So why did you have to sign this?
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All that said, anybody want to buy a set of 4 "slightly aggressive" snow chains?

 

[Plati]

Sorry to hijack the thread but wanted to get it out there.

Yes .. more than 1 dealer I spoke with said not to use chains on my 2014EL. I even checked with a Dealer in Salt Lake City because I figured it would be more relevant than in NYS. The Owners Manual section is copied below. I tried to find out if Ford offered a product but no product found. Owners Manual does kind of imply that cables are OK on the rear (and maybe the front) so this is why I was poking around here with Owners. Already found one person who has had an oops in this area. I think I'm gonna buy cables and only for the rear but have not decided on a product yet.

 

[Dan Giammarino]

FWIW, HD tow is included in various Ford packages that one might not expect to find it, including the Convenience Package, Special Edition Package, Texas Edition Package, Stealth Edition Package, and possibly others. So if shopping by window sticker alone just be aware the full content of these packages.

Ford periodically does package discount credits. If you are on the fence about the $3995 Special Edition package, know that it includes the $1570 HD tow and currently Special Edition has a $1060 credit, meaning you effectively can get some nice bonus options in addition to your HD tow for a meager $1365.

As a stand-alone option HD Tow is $1570, roughly 2.5% of a typical Expedition MSRP.

It doesn't seem like the 303A package (Stealth) includes the HD Tow Anymore? I seen a 2019 with Stealth and there were only 2 options for drive modes. HD Tow has 4 drive options right?

 

[shane_th_ee]

It doesn't seem like the 303A package (Stealth) includes the HD Tow Anymore? I seen a 2019 with Stealth and there were only 2 options for drive modes. HD Tow has 4 drive options right?

That truck doesn't. It's also got the coin holder where the trailer backup assist knob would be...

 

[Gumby]

It doesn't seem like the 303A package (Stealth) includes the HD Tow Anymore? I seen a 2019 with Stealth and there were only 2 options for drive modes. HD Tow has 4 drive options right?

Mine is just like that.

 

[Dan Giammarino]

Mine is just like that.

Interesting, thanks! Wonder why the Ford website says that 303A group comes with it. Maybe it did in earlier 2019s and they never updated the site?

• Stealth Edition Package
• Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow Package
• Driver Assistance Package

303A $7,153

 

[Calidad]

I had a hard time deciphering the 2spd transfer case and locking diff also. I asked three different dealers and they didn’t seem to realize or know if there was an easy way to ID the trucks with it. But as far as I could tell all the trucks with the heavy tow package had it. I didn’t see any 3.31 rear end ie non heavy tow package truck with it. The dealer I bought from had 12 19’s still in September.

 

[Calidad]

OK this is new to me - I have a full set of chains that I bought and tried once in my driveway on my 2006 Limited, and I was going to carry them in the 2018 XLT as well for mountain trips. Unfortunately I bought the ones in the picture and they are really too big for the clearances on this truck. The manual says it's rated for class S chains, 17 or 18 inch rims only, rear wheels only. So why did you have to sign this?
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All that said, anybody want to buy a set of 4 "slightly aggressive" snow chains?

I had a set of these for my Sequoia.

https://www.vulcantire.com/tire_cha...7vc-0cbYuRUvQf_p4SkCqWL_rqfBQFPxoC57kQAvD_BwE

Easy to put on, price is right, light weight for hauling around etc. I’ll be getting a set for my Expedition.

29yrs of big Sierra snow storms epic ski trips. I only chained up once. The cabin we were in had a down slope driveway to the house. None of the large group could get out on our last day. One Pathfinder, One Audi, a Ford Escape and my Old Subaru Legacy. I tossed my cables on and drove up and out. Took the cables off on the street and we went home.
audi didn’t have any traction devices, old pathfinder chained up kept spinning out on the ice. The old Escape basically only had Front wheel drive with slight rear assist. They all ended up getting a cable tug up to the street by a tow truck.

Thats the only time I’ve had to use traction devices on my AWD/4x4 rigs. All of 40ft lol.

 

[shane_th_ee]

I had a hard time deciphering the 2spd transfer case and locking diff also. I asked three different dealers and they didn’t seem to realize or know if there was an easy way to ID the trucks with it. But as far as I could tell all the trucks with the heavy tow package had it. I didn’t see any 3.31 rear end ie non heavy tow package truck with it. The dealer I bought from had 12 19’s still in September.

The two speed transfer case and locking differential are not standalone options. They are both included with either the FX4 package or the heavy duty towing package. Ok, I think you might be able to get the locking rear differential without the two speed transfer case if you get the heavy duty towing package on a two wheel drive Expedition. But I imagine those are pretty few and far between...