Ordered an air intake!

[AKentPhoto]

But did it add any power? Drop some weight?]

It feels slightly stronger but I also trippled the size the intercooler at the same time so who knows what % goes to what part. It sounds 1000x better, but wish it were louder so I have the intercooler pipes waiting for the next time I have the bumper off.

The demand for efficient cars has made OEMs figure out all the tricks that used to be left on the table for the aftermarket... Also their abilities to monitor and control the engines has improved. Which brings us back to the fact that if you want real power you have to tune it. Until I'm in the home stretch of the factory warranty I won't really consider it. That doesn't mean I'm not going to have the hardware in place to take full advantage of the added boost when I go to turn it up. Having a slightly more aggressive sound will help prevent me from hitting the buy button over at 5Star... Until the time is right anyway...

 

[Dice Roll]

@Dice Roll If all you want is more turbo whistle, I’ve had great success installing a drop-in K&N air filter into the factory box! More than likely isn’t going to provide as much whistle as a cold air intake, but for $40 and a trip to Walmart I couldn’t be happier.

I was reading amazon reviews and the eb seems to respond to these. Either they do free up things enough to make a difference or people are really letting 2018 stuff already go too long before new filter. Some guys reported slightly higher mpg with the kn

Big thing on the 7.3 was the egt dropped about 50 degrees consistently for guys running the open air filter. Hearing the whistle better means the turbo isnt struggling to suck in more air.

I’ll have to look and see if there are any easy to defeat baffles. On 90s 5.0 trucks it was just a hood pop to reach in and break the silencer off below the air box. I did mine and a buddy had a similar truck. When I did his he said I don’t know what you did, but it worked.

 

[LokiWolf]

AFE makes a DryFlow Drop in, that is what I installed for now. Takes the oil issue out of the equation.

 

[5280tunage]

I get that these turbos are a bit smaller than say a Greddy big boy turbo, but I have an AFE CAI and I love the increase in whine. It's not mind blowing, but I didn't want it to be. I'm happy with the purchase.

 

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@5280tunage
Did you go with an open or closed filter?

 

[302Xplorer]

The intake is arriving tomorrow! I’m interested to see what kind of difference it will make working with the upgraded intercooler and everything else stock. With only the intercooler upgrade, the rear tires already want to break loose on hard acceleration w/ AdvanceTrac disabled (even with a full 27 gallons in the gas tank!).

 

[302Xplorer]

Removing the factory intake this morning!

I found something interesting; what are these things?
Do you all take them out or leave them in place?

 

[Fozzy]

On the Raptor and F-150 forums there are people that say their truck have more power and more whistle by removing them. The same people tell you how good their mileage is as well. I think the engineers say they help spin the air in the tube to have a smother air flow for the turbo to ingest and baffle the sound. I think their like McDonald’s ice cream. Do we really know what it’s made of?


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[Fozzy]

And some people said they would get a PCV code with them out and some wouldn’t.


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[302Xplorer]

Excellent information! Thanks Fozzy.
Knowing that, I will install the new intake with those things left in place, see if the intake by itself throws any codes and later take a look at removing them.

 

[rjdelp7]

Improving the top end gains, will be limited by the factory single exhaust. The factory cams/VCT and compression are for low end torque, towing, fuel savings(eco part of boost) and run on 87 octane. Ford engineers designed the engine to meet Obama's crazy CAFE, that Trump changed. This is not a high performance engine, any more than was 5.4l Triton it replaced. 375hp should easily smoke the tires. I owned a 93 Mustang 5.0l in the the late 90's. That engine was nowhere near 375hp, maybe 300hp. It could easily spin both tires into a cloud of smoke.

 

[Fozzy]

Improving the top end gains, will be limited by the factory single exhaust. The factory cams/VCT and compression are for low end torque, towing, fuel savings(eco part of boost) and run on 87 octane. Ford engineers designed the engine to meet Obama's crazy CAFE, that Trump changed. This is not a high performance engine, any more than was 5.4l Triton it replaced. 375hp should easily smoke the tires. I owned a 93 Mustang 5.0l in the the late 90's. That engine was nowhere near 375hp, maybe 300hp. It could easily spin both tires into a cloud of smoke.

You know the EcoBoost crowed calls it the five point slow for a reason don’t you?


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[rjdelp7]

You know the EcoBoost crowed calls it the five point slow for a reason don’t you?


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The 5.0l truck version, is not high performance either.

 

[Dice Roll]

400 hp from factory isn’t high performance? Who knew?

 

[Dice Roll]

That deflector thing looks like on of those scam tornado inserts from as seen on tv about 20 years ago.

id pitch that if it wasn’t mentioned about a pcv code. That’s weird to get from air intake mod. I dunno. Not interested in messing up my daily for some small thing.

I looked last week and the leading piece that draws from underhood isn’t as easy to defeat as they used to be. Have to unbolt it and unclip it. Was hoping to be able to just pop it off. Used to be those things drew in cold air, but not enough so you had a gain from having more than enough hot air, rather than having not enough cold.

maybe if the kids get a bit older I’ll have time to fool with stuff more and can snag a scan tool in case it throws a code. Just doing a drop in filter, taking that pipe off, and maybe experimenting with taking out those deflector baffle things would yield some easy gains.

 

[LokiWolf]

Improving the top end gains, will be limited by the factory single exhaust. The factory cams/VCT and compression are for low end torque, towing, fuel savings(eco part of boost) and run on 87 octane. Ford engineers designed the engine to meet Obama's crazy CAFE, that Trump changed. This is not a high performance engine, any more than was 5.4l Triton it replaced. 375hp should easily smoke the tires. I owned a 93 Mustang 5.0l in the the late 90's. That engine was nowhere near 375hp, maybe 300hp. It could easily spin both tires into a cloud of smoke.

Please just stop. You DO NOT know this motor. You have zero clue.

The EB’s are tuned from the factory for 93, they detune based on KR and learned Octane. Not the other way around. Yes they run on 87 just fine, but that is not their preferred condition. There is a difference.

You used to compare the EB to your current Expy, now it is being compared to a 93 Mustang. It could spin the tires, but still only from the factory get a 7.9 0-60. My 2020 Max 4x4 Limited did 6.4 Stock, and 5.6 with a VERY mild tune. By that scale, your Mustang GT was not a high performance engine...when a vehicle weighing 5794lbs can beat a 3038lb performance engined vehicle. See I can compare ridiculous things too.

If you cannot add anything constructive to the conversation please go away. I will not respond to anymore of your responses in this thread.

For all reading this thread please ignore any information @rjdelp7 posts about EcoBoosts. He has ZERO real world experience with anything beyond a basic V8.




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[AKentPhoto]

If I had to guess I'd say they are more for sound reduction than spinning the air due to the amount of flat area in them (perpendicular to the air flow). I have owned turbo vehicles for 20 years and I have yet to see these. In fact the first place I saw them was an infomercial selling them to N/A vehicles to "improve gas mileage" years ago that clearly turned out to be nothing more than an intake restriction device. Due to how loud the turbos already are I'd have to go with sound over airflow benefit. This is however my first twin turbo so maybe there is something there...

@Dice Roll
Beat me to it!

 

[LokiWolf]

If I had to guess I'd say they are more for sound reduction than spinning the air due to the amount of flat area in them (perpendicular to the air flow). I have owned turbo vehicles for 20 years and I have yet to see these. In fact the first place I saw them was an infomercial selling them to N/A vehicles to "improve gas mileage" years ago that clearly turned out to be nothing more than an intake restriction device. Due to how loud the turbos already are I'd have to go with sound over airflow benefit. This is however my first twin turbo so maybe there is something there...

@Dice Roll
Beat me to it!

All of the EB’s have them. Like was said by @Fozzy , varied reports. My tuner said leave them. He has never seen any change in the positive direction from removing them. In the 3.5 they are fairly easy to remove, on others they are WAY more of a pain.

I would leave them...but either way I think it is a wash from a performance standpoint.


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[rjdelp7]

400 hp from factory isn’t high performance? Who knew?

9300lb towing. It's only maybe 325hp on 87 octane. 375 on 93. Only the platinum and Navigator are 400

 

[rjdelp7]

Please just stop. You DO NOT know this motor. You have zero clue.

The EB’s are tuned from the factory for 93, they detune based on KR and learned Octane. Not the other way around. Yes they run on 87 just fine, but that is not their preferred condition. There is a difference.

You used to compare the EB to your current Expy, now it is being compared to a 93 Mustang. It could spin the tires, but still only from the factory get a 7.9 0-60. My 2020 Max 4x4 Limited did 6.4 Stock, and 5.6 with a VERY mild tune. By that scale, your Mustang GT was not a high performance engine...when a vehicle weighing 5794lbs can beat a 3038lb performance engined vehicle. See I can compare ridiculous things too.

If you cannot add anything constructive to the conversation please go away. I will not respond to anymore of your responses in this thread.

For all reading this thread please ignore any information @rjdelp7 posts about EcoBoosts. He has ZERO real world experience with anything beyond a basic V8.




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IGnore LOKIWOLF, he is an EXPLORER owner/driver. He trolls this forum. He makes exaggerated claims and thinks he knows more than Ford Engineers.