The wheel nuts for the Expedition 2015 are not compatible with the wheel wrench

[sulatek]

Greetings to all Here
I register my surprise from the respected Ford company
How can they allow such egregious mistakes


The wheel nuts for the Expedition 2015 are not compatible with the wheel wrench included with the car jack!
I was surprised by this when I was on a wild road.
One of them helped me, laughing sarcastically about this company and said, “Don’t be surprised.. Underestimation of people is everywhere.
” Later I had to get the cap off some of those stupid nuts to undo the flat tyre!

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Greetings to all Here
I register my surprise from the respected Ford company
How can they allow such egregious mistakes
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The wheel nuts for the Expedition 2015 are not compatible with the wheel wrench included with the car jack!
I was surprised by this when I was on a wild road.
One of them helped me, laughing sarcastically about this company and said, “Don’t be surprised.. Underestimation of people is everywhere.
” Later I had to get the cap off some of those stupid nuts to undo the flat tyre!View attachment 77477

Several posts on this forum regarding the matter.

Ford has poor quality lug nuts which expand over time (especially in cold weather states) and no longer fit the lug wrench that is supplied with the vehicle.

The only option is to remove and replace the lug nuts with new ones.

 

[m3olsen]

Several posts on this forum regarding the matter.

Ford has poor quality lug nuts which expand over time (especially in cold weather states) and no longer fit the lug wrench that is supplied with the vehicle.

The only option is to remove and replace the lug nuts with new ones.

Also, follow the post recommendations and replace them with quality aftermarket one-piece lug nuts to avoid having this problem come up again. Make sure to specify your application - don't buy lug nuts meant for steel wheels and use them on aluminum.

 

[sulatek]

Several posts on this forum regarding the matter.

Ford has poor quality lug nuts which expand over time (especially in cold weather states) and no longer fit the lug wrench that is supplied with the vehicle.

The only option is to remove and replace the lug nuts with new ones.

I thank you
I realize the easiest solution is replacement
But why would a respectable company resort to such unprofessional assembly methods?!

 

[sulatek]

Also, follow the post recommendations and replace them with quality aftermarket one-piece lug nuts to avoid having this problem come up again. Make sure to specify your application - don't buy lug nuts meant for steel wheels and use them on aluminum.

Thanks alot

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

I thank you
I realize the easiest solution is replacement
But why would a respectable company resort to such unprofessional assembly methods?!

I bought a new 2015 Ford Expedition Limited 4x4, my first Ford.

I’ve wondered the same thing about the lug nuts. On a truck that can tow and have an 8-passenger capacity, it should have bullet-proof lug nuts.

I’ve also wondered why Ford didn’t include individual display of the tire pressures, no HVAC air filter and no hood ajar light - but included a useless color-changing interior light display?

I think Ford doesn’t survey or speak with its customers and thinks it knows best what people should have - not want, on their vehicles.

 

[tacoduck]

I thank you
I realize the easiest solution is replacement
But why would a respectable company resort to such unprofessional assembly methods?!

Because weight on these vehicles hurts their epa rating. A pound here, a pound there… it all adds up. My other theory is expense. They are most likely cheaper than treated steel lugnuts. Crappy product on a truck that claims to be “built ford tough.”

 

[twodollars]

I'd agree it's likely a cost savings. I have fought these on dodge and gm as well, over the years. End fix is replacement as soon as you find one swelling or loosing the cover.

 

[sulatek]

I'd agree it's likely a cost savings. I have fought these on dodge and gm as well, over the years. End fix is replacement as soon as you find one swelling or loosing the cover.

This is really a problem if someone gets stuck in the desert, late at night, or is going on an important date

Does Ford pay attention to this? Or is hearing closed is considered by them?

 

[sulatek]

Because weight on these vehicles hurts their epa rating. A pound here, a pound there… it all adds up. My other theory is expense. They are most likely cheaper than treated steel lugnuts. Crappy product on a truck that claims to be “built ford tough.”

Ford was not like this in the past.

It was a symbol of confidence

But ...

 

[sulatek]

I think Ford doesn’t survey or speak with its customers and thinks it knows best what people should have - not want, on their vehicles.

This is mostly my friend

If there was an interest in the opinions of customers ..then Ford would always be in the forefront

Nothing is missing

they even have a boring store of unwarranted vanity

 

[tacoduck]

Ford was not like this in the past.

It was a symbol of confidence

But ...

Toyota used the same lug nuts on their tundra’s as well. It’s the epa and fuel economy mandates that are driving this.

 

[JustHarsh]

Found this out on my 2017 Expedition the night before the family and I were flying out of town for thanksgiving. It was around 8PM and about 15 degrees outside - Minnesota. My low air pressure light went off, as will happen in the extreme cold) and I was going to ignore it and opt to get home. I reluctantly hit a gas station on the way home to top off the tires when I discovered that my left rear was almost completely flat. Glad I stopped. Of course I wasn't dressed for 15 degrees and windy, so I was already not in the best of moods, but then after I get everything out (also first time dealing with the spare tire removal) the stupid lug wrench wouldn't fit. I must have increased the temp in my general area by 50 degrees with how mad I was. Called insurance company who sent someone out to change the tire (only about a 30 min wait). When I got back i just ordered a small breaker bar, a socket that fit the lug nuts and a bottle jack because that scissor one they have is junk.

 

[SunnySunshine]

Usually the wheel wrench that comes with all vehicles suck. Get one of those DeWalt Tire Change Kits from Home Depot with the giant breaker bar and torque wrench and put it in your vehicle (especially on road trips or if you're headed into the wilderness/desert). It works really well.

 

[Machete]

When I lived in Chicago suburbs, I always carried a micro-battery starter/charger, electric tire pump, gloves, spare coat, ear muffs, water, energy bars, spare iPhone charger. I also made sure to check my spare air pressure in the Fall.

Ask me how I learned this.

 

[Utah Driver]

Unfortunately, I'm the latest victim of the factory wheel nut wrench that doesn't fit. I've been aware of all the posts on this forum about lug nuts swelling so I've kept an eye on them. My lug nuts are not swollen. They are 22mm precisely. A 7/8" socket is a little sloppy, but 22mm is perfect. Anyway, the factory wheel lug nut wrench is a 21mm. Ask me how I found this out? . I'm posting this to help others. Cheers