Mach Audio System

Does anyone know the specs on the Mach Audio System, like ohms and watts per channel and the subs size and watts, and amp location. wanting to upgrade it all at one time but want to make it look/sound good


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I dont have the information you need but I would be interested in your old speakers if they are still good. Thanks. If so, send private message.

Originally posted by stuntmanisme
Does anyone know the specs on the Mach Audio System, like ohms and watts per channel and the subs size and watts, and amp location. wanting to upgrade it all at one time but want to make it look/sound good

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Same for me...I blew my stock sub the other day (speaker foam seperated from the actual speaker) and I wanted to keep the stock enclosure and just add a new speaker. I used to be into huge systems but I just wanted to leave this stock. Well the only sub that my local shop had in stock that would fit was a 4 ohm Memphis 8, they said "this is what we put in the stock boxes". Well I put it in and it sounds terrible, way worse than factory, no punch at all. I'm looking for some help now for stock system specs.

Whats the ohms of the stock sub?
Whats the output (watts) of the stock amp?
Which wire is positive and negative on the amps output?
(black w/white dashes has small spade terminal, Solid black has large spade terminal) I've swtched them and it sounds best with the black w/white hooked up positive

Does anyone know if theres an aftermarket amp that will fit in the stock location?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

well I can tell you that your Memphis sounded like crap because Memphis is crap. Im bing to ld just about any 8" sub will fit..personally JL Audio and Kicker Comp VR come to mind if youre looking for deep bass and keep the enclosure...Im about to start the same upgrade that youre mentioning...

my concern is the area where the sub is mounted. Most subwoofers require a sealed enclosure to perform well in limited space. So the question I have is is the area where the factory sub is mounted sealed? As for worrying about a new sub fitting, Im gonna measure the area with a tape measure and compare with the size of the sub I choose before I buy...So if anyone has the amplifier specs for the Ford Mach system sub amplifier in a '99 Expedition Eddie Bauer I could really use that info...thanks!!

ConwayLaFamilia said:

my concern is the area where the sub is mounted. Most subwoofers require a sealed enclosure to perform well in limited space. So the question I have is is the area where the factory sub is mounted sealed? As for worrying about a new sub fitting, Im gonna measure the area with a tape measure and compare with the size of the sub I choose before I buy...So if anyone has the amplifier specs for the Ford Mach system sub amplifier in a '99 Expedition Eddie Bauer I could really use that info...thanks!!

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Yes the sub enclouser for the 1st gen expy's is a sealed enclouser, and you will actually have to pull the box out to get the factory sub out of it because they have a bolt holding the back of the sub which you will have to plug so that it stays a sealed enclouser. As for any of the Mach amps, if you try to upgrade speakers on the stock amps they will sound like crap and will not last very long ( typicall of all factory amplified systems since they usually run 8 ohm setups ).

The best thing to do is get an aftermarket Headunit ( I prefer pioneer and there cd changers fit in the factory location but to each their own ) and a good 4 channel amp for all of your door speakers. Running all new speaker wire to the doors is a PITA but when you are done you will be happy with it. Get some good quality speakers for the doors, you can get the 6x8 that fit the factory locations but they do not sound as good, or you can get the adapter plates for the 5 1/2" seperates and mount your tweeters where you want them. Then get a small 1 channel amp for the sub ( you will probably have to mount it under the second row seat because the space behind the panel is very very limited) and whatever brand sub you prefer. I belive JL Audio even makes a replacement stealth box for the expy so you can upgrade to a 10" sub.

Damn good info...thanks Racenut...Im gonna look 4 that 10" JL Box before I go any further...as for head unit Im looking at Pioneer in dash Navigation units at the moment, I know theres some minor trimming to get the unit to fit flush. Im goona gut her in the spring with new carpet, etc and will be uinstalling new speakers and wire then while I have the floorboard exposed. But for now replacing the sub and looks like getting a mono amp to run it. Any idea of the dimentions where the factory amp sits, maybe I can find a small size amp to just install in the factory spot....

I've had that Memphis 8" in my vehicle for over 4 years now and it sounds better than the stock system so I'm completely happy. If I was going to dump another large sum of money into a system then I would have gone with something different but for what I needed, to upgrade the stock blown subwoofer it does that perfectly fine!

lmao...ok firemann...

ConwayLaFamilia said:

lmao...ok firemann...

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I'm just saying, lol, it works for someone that just needs to replace a factory sub. I do miss my thumping system I had in my ranger but now I need the room in the Expedition and a big system would just get in the way.

no youre right, I feel the same way...Im just gonna replace the factory sub with an aftermarket one and install a new mono amp and hide it as best I can...

ConwayLaFamilia said:

no youre right, I feel the same way...Im just gonna replace the factory sub with an aftermarket one and install a new mono amp and hide it as best I can...

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Let me know how the new mono amp sounds I just left the factory one connected.

firemann32 said:

Let me know how the new mono amp sounds I just left the factory one connected.

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If you left the factory amp in you are missing out big time. With just a small mono or even a small 2ch amp that sub will double it's output and make it hit really hard, you would not even belive that it is an 8" sub.

It does take a bit to install it and you will have to mount it under the second row seat because as you know there is no room under that rear quarter plastic, but it is definatly worth the time and money.

yea and funny thing as karma would have it, the factory sub just stopped playing this morning on my way to work lol...I agree with him firemann an aftermarket amp gives a much cleaner signal to the sub and lets it pound much harder with much deeper bass...My plan is to install my Pioneer AVIC 7" Navi in the dash, 7" Pioneer screens in the headrests, Kenwood Excelon 6X8s in all the doors, Kenwood Excelon 1in. tweeters for front dash and rear panels, Kenwood Excelon 150X4 4 channel amp on the door speakers, Kenwood Excelon 600X1 Mono Amp powering a 10" Kicker Comp VR sub, which I was told with minimal customization and removal of the old amp, will fit in the panel where the factory sub sits. I spent less than $650 excluding the Pioneer Navi unit...

ConwayLaFamilia said:

yea and funny thing as karma would have it, the factory sub just stopped playing this morning on my way to work lol...I agree with him firemann an aftermarket amp gives a much cleaner signal to the sub and lets it pound much harder with much deeper bass...My plan is to install my Pioneer AVIC 7" Navi in the dash, 7" Pioneer screens in the headrests, Kenwood Excelon 6X8s in all the doors, Kenwood Excelon 1in. tweeters for front dash and rear panels, Kenwood Excelon 150X4 4 channel amp on the door speakers, Kenwood Excelon 600X1 Mono Amp powering a 10" Kicker Comp VR sub, which I was told with minimal customization and removal of the old amp, will fit in the panel where the factory sub sits. I spent less than $650 excluding the Pioneer Navi unit...

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Let me know how all that works out, I'd like to do a Navi system and screens in the headrests but I don't want to pay someone to do it.

I have the stock encloure in mine with and aftermarket Lanzer 8"...seems to work fine and puts out good bass. But the real question is.....can you hook up the factory amp to run that woofer? I have a small amp pushing it right now but would like to put back in my stock deck.

ghettoracer said:

I have the stock encloure in mine with and aftermarket Lanzer 8"...seems to work fine and puts out good bass. But the real question is.....can you hook up the factory amp to run that woofer? I have a small amp pushing it right now but would like to put back in my stock deck.

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Most of the time when you try to use the factory amp for a replacement sub it does not sound right, either the sub is under powered or the ohm ratings are different. I do not have the factory amp ohm ratings but most factory amp systems are 8ohm setups. These sub amps are also famouse for going out and run around $300 from what I have heard.

You do have another option.

If your amp has LINE LEVEL INPUTS you can tap off of the back speaker wires to run the signal to the amp. The bad about this is your system will not be as loud, and the factory head unit actually cuts the bass from the music as the volume goes up to keep from blowing the speakers so your bass out put will diminish as well.

For the best sound I would definatley stay after market on the head unit.

Hope this helps

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??? what???

I have some info people have asked for in this thread. I have not had the chance to measure the amp. I still need this info myself.

I own a 1999 Mercury Mountaineer, it has the Mach Audio system and the sub is recently blown, and the stock stereo the screen keeps cutting out (display). This is very very very common for the display to flake out on these stereo's there are numerous thread's on how to fix it and who to send it to for repair.

So these are the changes I have made so far.

With today's day and age bluetooth is absolutely essential. I was shopping craigslist for about a month looking for the right navigation unit with bluetooth, I ended up giving up and installing my JVC KDA 805 head unit. It has bluetooth and usb connections, ipod ready, steering wheel compatible, hd ready.

Anyway this was a pretty good improvement over stock. Yesterday I read forums for several hours deciding on which sub would best replace the stock and still work with the stock amp. Which by the way I found out the stock amp was 85w rms, 150w max and its putting out 4 ohm. I also found out many subs would fit with slight modifications. I chose not to modify at all and just go with a shallow mount sub that is guaranteed to fit:

This is the sub I opted for:

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_113XW8...Shallow_Mount&tab=review#reviewDynamicContent

50-150 rms, 600 watt max at 4 ohm's. Seems as if the stock amp would push this just fine. Sure a aftermarket amp with give better signal but you can fix that with a radio shack item if necessary. Don't get me wrong once I measure the actual size of the amp I plan on replacing it with something that will fit in that space, I want my truck to remain clutter free, no amps, no subs laying around.

I also noticed a slight distortion in the rear right door speaker so I decided to pick up a set of these:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136TR570CX/JL-Audio-TR570-CXi.html?tp=93

I will let you all know the size of the amp for anyone else that might be wanting to replace the amp in the same spot the stock one is.