Black05Expy
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I also swapped relay 4 and 5 and still no windows.
05 expedition xlt just dies
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ELVATO
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Fuse 2? Did you put relay 4 or relay 5 into where relay 2 should be?
This is what my fuse box looks like. Notice I have all relays in there.
EDIT: Which is all weird since, unless someone just took it out, you should have had a relay 2 from the beginning since you say your windows used to work.
The only things listed in the manual that cover the moonroof are fuse 22 (circled in the pic), circuit breaker 401, and relay number 2 (middle one in left column). These things also happen to affect the power windows, while fuse 22 and relay 2 affect the radio. That is the reason I asked you to check both fuse 22, as well as relay 2, since they covered all of your affected items. The reason I asked you to swap relay 4 or 5 into relay 2 was because I believed relay 2 might be bad. Relay 4 controls the rear window defrost, while relay 5 controls the trailer tow charge, both items not need to start the vehicle.
If, say, when you swapped relay 4 with relay 2 (which you apparently don't have), your windows worked and your rear defrost didn't work, then you would know that the relay was bad, and you'd have to get a new one.
This is what my fuse box looks like. Notice I have all relays in there.
EDIT: Which is all weird since, unless someone just took it out, you should have had a relay 2 from the beginning since you say your windows used to work.
The only things listed in the manual that cover the moonroof are fuse 22 (circled in the pic), circuit breaker 401, and relay number 2 (middle one in left column). These things also happen to affect the power windows, while fuse 22 and relay 2 affect the radio. That is the reason I asked you to check both fuse 22, as well as relay 2, since they covered all of your affected items. The reason I asked you to swap relay 4 or 5 into relay 2 was because I believed relay 2 might be bad. Relay 4 controls the rear window defrost, while relay 5 controls the trailer tow charge, both items not need to start the vehicle.
If, say, when you swapped relay 4 with relay 2 (which you apparently don't have), your windows worked and your rear defrost didn't work, then you would know that the relay was bad, and you'd have to get a new one.
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Black05Expy
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Ok so I swapped the relays and the windows are working now. I think when playing with the relays and fuses we accidently put the relay in the wrong spot because I am missing one of the relays. Thanks so much you've been a huge help.
ELVATO
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Glad to hear your Expy is functional again 
Black05Expy
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Well here we are again the truck does not want to start. I was driving it and it started to cut in and out like it was running out of gas. Drove it all the way home and as I pullup to my house just dies and wont start back up. Waited a day and it started right up and acted fine. Today my wife takes it work drives fine there for her and then does same thing on her way home and dies on side of the highway. Do you guys think my fuel pump is on its way out the door or is there something about these trucks that I dont know about? Once again guys help would be appreciated.
ELVATO
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I think the 05-06 have the same problem with the fuel module that the 04-08 F150's do, since they share the same motor (5.4 3V).
This post might help: http://www.f150online.com/forums/2004-2008-f-150/448006-fuel-pump-module-pictures-did-i-win.html
There's other posts on the issue, just the first one I saw...
This post might help: http://www.f150online.com/forums/2004-2008-f-150/448006-fuel-pump-module-pictures-did-i-win.html
There's other posts on the issue, just the first one I saw...
Black05Expy
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Thanks again I will check that out tonight and let you know.
Black05Expy
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Ok so the truck is finally throwing codes which is better than when nothing was happening. Ive got two codes for fuel rail pressure sensor.
ELVATO
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Check the module. If it's rusted and water got in, it might not be commanding the pump to provide enough pressure. What were the code you got?
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Black05Expy
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Code was P0191,which I researched and from what I found it was refrenced to the module. So as soon as I get a chance Im going to pull the spare and inspect the module.
ELVATO
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Yea, especially with you being up north and getting all that road salt. The link I posted was from someone up north, and there's was pretty much destroyed. The main reason, though, is because the aluminum case of the module reacts with the steel frame. When you get a new one, make sure to install it with a space between it and the frame (they mention rubber spacers in the link).
Black05Expy
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Yeah that guy was from NJ which is only about 3 hours away from me so Im sure mine looks something like that. Yea they mentioned rubber spacer or maybe putting some washers on the mounting studs. My only concern is that when I look for the module I cant find it for an Expedition only F150s and Mustangs so Im hoping that mine has it and thats the only thing wrong with it. I wont know though till this rain stops so I can get under the truck and take a look. Fingers crossed that this is it. Thanks again for the help.
Black05Expy
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And we have a culprit!!!!! Thanks again Elavato!!!! Pulled my spare took out the module and sure enough completely corroded.
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