10R80 Transmission Lemon Law Claim

[AmeriKEN]

DISCLAIMER: Despite transmission woes, I love my truck.

I live in NY and the state's lemon law is clearly limited to on or before 24-mos. / 24k miles; whichever comes first. Check your state!

My first of 2 repairs fell between 25-26 mos. and 24k - 25k miles; first they changed the spacer plate then the control assembly. Things were great until around 58k when it got noisy, clunky wouldn't find first gear when shifting from park. Full rebuild under warranty. NOTE: I did have a few other warranty issues related to the pre-collision system.

Consulting a Lemon Law attorney, he confirmed I didn't meet the state's requirements, but met the federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requirements just as long as you are still under the original powertain warranty. This path will not lead to a buy back, but potentially a cash settlement.

Know your rights. Worth looking into. Most LL attorneys will take a case, after reviewing your records, for a 1/3 contingency. Doesn't hurt to talk to one for free if you truly had problems. I'll be getting a settlement in the next few weeks larger than I imagined. All cases are different, but a buck is a buck.

Good luck!

 

[Jettix2]

DISCLAIMER: Despite transmission woes, I love my truck.

I live in NY and the state's lemon law is clearly limited to on or before 24-mos. / 24k miles; whichever come first. Check your state!

My first of 2 repairs fell between 25-26 mos. and 24k - 25k miles; first the spacer plate then the control assembly. Things were great until around 58k when it got noisy, clunky wouldn't find first gear when shifting from park. Full rebuild under warranty. NOTE: I did have a few other warranty issues related to the pre-collision system.

Consulting a Lemon Law attorney, he confirmed I didn't meet the state's requirements, but met the federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requirements just as long as you are still under the original powertain warranty. This path will not lead to a buy back, but potentially a cash settlement.

Know your rights. Worth looking into. Most LL attorneys will take a case, after reviewing your records, for a 1/3 contingency. Doesn't hurt to talk to one for free if you truly had problems. I'll be getting a settlement in the next few weeks larger than I imagined. All cases are different, but a buck is a buck.

Good luck!

Great info, thank you for sharing!

 

[BlackBetty]

I’ll pass this on to a friend/ non-member who has this transmission and issues. He’s getting the runaround at the dealer.

 

[admiralcrunch]

fwiw, i had "weirdness" on a 22 mustang gt with the 10 speed auto as well, but never progressed to actual misbehavior (traded so wife could get a last prod year super bee). my 20 expedition max xlt fx4 was behaviing right on the line of "oh hell no" but i started first with resetting the transmission learning tables and it's behaving so well now. i figure i just do that every now an then if necessary. i think part of is folks forget these are learning transmissions, and 10 speeds and maybe a little more power than the average driver has been accustommed to that has helped fuel the bad behavior due to the learning software not understanding that "i'm not going to behave that way ALL the time so don't reprogram for what i did just now at the redlight" ... maybe not for for everyone cause hardware can and will fail but for me, i think i was part of the bad behavior! 110% lawyer up and at least check out your options, don'T suffer someone else's need for profit for your vehicular safety, ever!

 

[LegalBrief]

CA State Supreme Court ruled on 11/6/24 that used car buyers are NOT "sold with new car warranty".

This means used car buyers, can't sue under CA lemon law, but they are still entitled to the remaining term of the warranty.

State Supreme Court curbs cases that qualify for lemon law claim

The Daily Journal has more journalists covering the California legal profession than any other publication.

www.dailyjournal.com

 

[jjscsix]

CA State Supreme Court ruled on 11/6/24 that used car buyers are NOT "sold with new car warranty".

This means used car buyers, can't sue under CA lemon law, but they are still entitled to the remaining term of the warranty.

State Supreme Court curbs cases that qualify for lemon law claim

The Daily Journal has more journalists covering the California legal profession than any other publication.

www.dailyjournal.com

This is so perplexing. So we would be under warranty, but if they cant fix it there is no way to enforce the warranty other than to file a lawsuit which Ford attorneys would have us tied up so long in getting the suit heard in court that it would be worthless. And we would be out a boatload of attorneys fees.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

As usual, the greedy f*ckn lawyers are the only real WINNERS in these cases, despite the fact that you may or may NOT end up with a fixed vehicle or a settlement/buyback....and regardless of what they say or how nice they seem, they really don't care one way or the other, as long as they get their check !

 

[Jettix2]

CA State Supreme Court ruled on 11/6/24 that used car buyers are NOT "sold with new car warranty".

This means used car buyers, can't sue under CA lemon law, but they are still entitled to the remaining term of the warranty.

State Supreme Court curbs cases that qualify for lemon law claim

The Daily Journal has more journalists covering the California legal profession than any other publication.

www.dailyjournal.com

I bought mine used, CPO, under factory powertrain still. My attny said we met the federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requirements too. It was well worth my time to tell to a Lemon Law Attorney.

 

[ridi1987]

As usual, the greedy f*ckn lawyers are the only real WINNERS in these cases, despite the fact that you may or may NOT end up with a fixed vehicle or a settlement/buyback....and regardless of what they say or how nice they seem, they really don't care one way or the other, as long as they get their check !

Personally on what does has done to me I would rather loose $15k to my attorney rather than have ford steal it for selling me a lemon car and making me suffer daily driving their lemon car. I’m on the same boat. 2023 ford max limited. $80k car. Trans clunks, fumes in cabin frequently. Engine long block replaced at 16,000 miles because it was burning 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles driver. What a garbage vehicle.

 

[LegalBrief]

You guys need to read the law not just speak - Magnuson Moss Warranty Act specifically says that the manufacturer pays the consumers attorney, that means you don’t pay anyone. Further it says the only thing that is deducted is the usage before the first warranty incident, so for most that’s less the a grand.

 

[Jettix2]

You guys need to read the law not just speak - Magnuson Moss Warranty Act specifically says that the manufacturer pays the consumers attorney, that means you don’t pay anyone. Further it says the only thing that is deducted is the usage before the first warranty incident, so for most that’s less the a grand.

My attorney didn’t collect if they didn’t “win” a settlement so there was no risk to me. I have no regrets, and it was well worth the little time I spent pursuing it.

 

[grandfam8]

I’m curious. If it gets lemoned then Ford takes the car back and gives you $$ back at a highly discounted price. If you settle you get to keep the car, but it releases Ford from having to repair anything from then on? Am I right about any of this?

 

[Drake2033]

I went through something similar, and keeping all service records was key. If there’s a clear pattern of unresolved issues, it helps build a stronger case for a buyback or replacement.

 

[amanwithaplan]

Hi, not quite in NY but close by in NJ - was hoping you could clarify something here. As long as you are still under the original powertrain warranty, does the Magnuson-Moss warranty apply? I've got a 21' Expedition that I obtained used w/ 7k miles, and currently at about 39k. Under concerns of rough shifting, Ford did a "valve-body overhaul" on my transmission at about 29k miles, and currently, it's in for a new transmission under the powertrain warranty (> month & counting). I'm not within the threshold under NJ lemon law, but I'm still under the manufacturer powertrain warranty. That said, do you think I'd qualify (for a cash-settlement & keep) under the warranty act? Thanks.

 

[Drake2033]

I've heard of people having luck with lemon law claims when transmission issues persist even after multiple repair attempts. One thing to consider is keeping all records of repairs and conversations with Ford.

If the car's issues lead to an accident, legal help might be needed—someone like a Tulsa Car Accident Lawyer could guide you if things escalate beyond just repair claims.