2019 Fx4 - Correct towing Capacity?

[mswanson25]

Hi, I know that a Heavy Tow Package (536) on 2019 will achieve maximum tow. When I read the online towing sheet:

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../guides/19Towing_Ford_Expedition_r1_Dec21.pdf

I notice that the 3.73 axle ratio determines the towing capacity. The FX4 package also has a 3.73 ratio.

So my question is, what is the proper towing capacity for a 2019 equiped with the FX4 package, but WITHOUT the 536 package?

6000 or 9200lbs?

Thanks much!

 

[duneslider]

Assuming you add a trailer brake controller it should be 9200lbs. I am not aware of them adding anything else to the drivetrain with the tow package. I believe they all have the same transmission and engine cooling equipment.

 

[shane_th_ee]

What duneslider said. If you get the FX4 package, the max tow package only gets you two things: the trailer brake controller and the trailer backup assist software. If you don't want/need the trailer backup assist software, the trailer brake controller is available as a dealer installed option...

*Getting the FX4 package does net a small discount on the price of the max tow package .

 

[nate6966]

The heavy duty tow package also adds a radiator upgrade and the two speed 4wd function (4-low), in addition to the 3.73 axle ratio.
Maybe the FX4 package adds the 2 speed 4wd, but what about the upgraded radiator?

 

[duneslider]

The heavy duty tow package also adds a radiator upgrade and the two speed 4wd function (4-low), in addition to the 3.73 axle ratio.
Maybe the FX4 package adds the 2 speed 4wd, but what about the upgraded radiator?

Does it really add an upgraded radiator? I haven't been able to find proof that it does. The parts guy at the local ford dealer told me there is only one part # for the radiator on the expedition. Do you have some better info? This was my first time in to this ford dealer and I don't know if he really knows what he is talking about.

FX4 adds all the 4 wheel drive stuff as it is the offroad package.

 

[nate6966]

Just checked online - FX4 package also has the 2 speed 4wd transfer case and a heavy duty radiator. Looks like the "pro trailer backup assist" and trailer brake controller are the only things missing from the 9200 lb HD tow package.

 

[nate6966]

Does it really add an upgraded radiator? I haven't been able to find proof that it does. The parts guy at the local ford dealer told me there is only one part # for the radiator on the expedition. Do you have some better info? This was my first time in to this ford dealer and I don't know if he really knows what he is talking about.

FX4 adds all the 4 wheel drive stuff as it is the offroad package.

Not only was I told verbally that the HD tow package includes an upgraded radiator, but the PDF ordering guides and features lists online show an upgraded radiator included with heavy duty tow package.

I'm no parts expert though.

 

[shane_th_ee]

parts.ford.com shows two radiators for the Expedition: RAD130 for standard duty radiator and RAD152 for the heavy duty radiator. If I search my VIN, only the RAD152 (heavy duty) is available.

 

[Adieu]

It's been said that Ford massively underrates towing capacity, probably for upselling options and superduties

There's hotshot trucker guys running around towing 25 - 30k lbs commercial freight all day every day with dually pickups... apparently it's even 100% legal, fully insured and aboveboard. yeah they're SOMEWHAT better equipped for towing, but hardly 5X better

 

[Tripinbillie]

Note towing capacity is not the first thing you run out of, its payload. You need to figure on how much weight you’d be adding to the vehicle with people, gear, etc + the tongue weight of the thing your towing..

 

[nate6966]

The Ford documents do clearly state weight distribution hitches are "required" to exceed 6k towing, reaching the 9,200 lb capacity.

 

[AAOO]

This might be helpful?

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten...l/pdf/guides/18RV&TT_Ford_Expedition_Oct5.pdf

 

[duneslider]

parts.ford.com shows two radiators for the Expedition: RAD130 for standard duty radiator and RAD152 for the heavy duty radiator. If I search my VIN, only the RAD152 (heavy duty) is available.

Thanks, I am betting the parts guy was just looking at my vin and therefore only saw one option. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[wingrider]

Upgrading the rear brakes used to be part of the HD Tow. I don't see that in the HD options.

 

[carymccarr]

It's been said that Ford massively underrates towing capacity, probably for upselling options and superduties

There's hotshot trucker guys running around towing 25 - 30k lbs commercial freight all day every day with dually pickups... apparently it's even 100% legal, fully insured and aboveboard. yeah they're SOMEWHAT better equipped for towing, but hardly 5X better

they aren’t running IRS’s though...

 

[Randymac]

I don't know about the '19, but I have a '17 Limited with tow package, 3.73 and the works. One "Upgrade" on mine are the Load Leveling shocks. Avoid them if at all possible. I have problems with the back end sagging as the shocks fail to level with a 6K lb trailer/approx. 600lbs tongue weight. Towing power with the Eco boost is great but I am having trouble finding an available option for the shocks and Ford will not acknowledge the issue. Aftermarket has not caught up to these yet.

 

[shane_th_ee]

I don't know about the '19, but I have a '17 Limited with tow package, 3.73 and the works. One "Upgrade" on mine are the Load Leveling shocks. Avoid them if at all possible... Ford will not acknowledge the issue.

Well, Ford does no longer offer any sort of load leveling device (shocks, airbags, etc) on the 4th Gen Expeditions...

 

[mswanson25]

Thank you everyone! I doubt I would ever tow close to 9200, but I figured if i'm $50k+ into the deal, why not get what I need.

It sounds like don't have the heavy duty radiator which would affect towing conditions slightly, but at least I would have the better gear ratio.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Thank you everyone! I doubt I would ever tow close to 9200, but I figured if i'm $50k+ into the deal, why not get what I need.

It sounds like don't have the heavy duty radiator which would affect towing conditions slightly, but at least I would have the better gear ratio.

It sounds like you're thinking about getting the FX4 without the towing package. That DOES get you the HD radiator.

 

[nate6966]

It sounds like you're thinking about getting the FX4 without the towing package. That DOES get you the HD radiator.

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