You like the palisades system? My wife and I were both underwhelmed. When it was new, I was able to compare to my 18s system and it was nowhere near as good. However, the 22s 22 spkr unit is a bit light compared to the 12 spkr unit and though it's clearer, it's not strong. My 14 spkr revel in my current nav is worlds better, and the 30 spkr in the new one is worlds better than it. The wagoneers and gcls 19 spkr Mac system is also crazy good.