chips/programmers/tuners

[skysurfer2010]

anyone using one? i'm looking at the hypertech programmer III and the diablo predator for my expy. I'm mainly looking to increase mpg and being able to calibrate my speedo would be nice too since i know it's off.

 

[firemann32]

Yea, anyone use them?

 

[green03]

Yes, the programmer helps the mileage even with regular fuel. The pre2002 motors can really benefit from tuning revisions. All the tunes for factory trucks are exactly the same no matter who you buy them from. I know hypertech has 87 and 93 fuel tuning, but I have a suggestion...... I really like Sniper Tuning www.snipertuing.com I have their high dollar dyno shop software. They offer a "end-user level" software called "scout" or more advanced called "special forces". If you buy the basic programmer and software I will be able to do custom tunes for everybody just by sending me your tune captured from the car via email (and a little green of course). I picked up 3mpg in town just by fixing the typical Ford "in a gear too high" shift points and kept the converter from locking up untill I was at highway speeds.... As soon as my regular work dies down a bit I will start offering my services to you guys if you are interested.
Matt Robinson

 

[Landho]

Hypertech Power Programmer III model 41043 works for '05 Expy with 5.4L 3v. See my further comments in the post linked below...

http://www.expeditionforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1946

I'll post more regarding mileage after I've had it a little longer.

 

[Landho]

Update

So we've had three full tanks of gas 93 octane gas since I installed the tune, and our average is now 15.7mpg. It hasn't averaged that far above 15.4 in over 10 months, {except for a quick stint to 16.7mpg during a 4000mile trip to Colorado.}

Given all of the conditions which affect fuel economy, that slight .3 change is hardly signifigant and perhaps unrelated to the tuning at all. I will report back again in a couple more weeks to note any changes in MPG.

I have certainly noticed a slight power improvement... the key work there is "slight". It isn't night or day though... a few trials of "re-programming to stock/re-programming to hypertech" have helped and there is certainly a bit more "umph" - particularly around 2000rpm, and again in the 3000-4000rpm range. I don't go out and make "drag racing" runs, these are practicle use trials. I can undoudtedly notice a mild difference in how quick the truck gets to speed and a percievable difference driving up and around a large bridge/on-ramp to the beltway.

Again, so far i'm very pleased. I've got my eye on a Gibson cat-back exhaust and headers... waiting for the availability of dyno results though.

More later...

 

[green03]

well....... Hypertech may have only added timing during hard throttle conditions to not mess with the emissions legality. The mileage gains come from adding timing during cruise, but this can effect emissions. Usually the more timing you run in the tune without pinging, the more efficient the engine will be. I doesn't really hurt emissions, but companies like hypertech only usually mess with WOT and heavy load so they don't have to certify the tunes with the EPA. Emissions testing isn't done at WOT.....
Just a guess,
Matt

 

[Landho]

It should be noted that - as an Expedition driver, it can be assumed that I am not too concerned about emissions and would be willing to modify my Expy in many ways without regards to emissions. Particularly if it were just a program, which I could remove or add easily before and after inspection.

Sure, shoot me, if you're reading this forum and drive an expy, you're no tree hugger.

 

[green03]

Well put....LOL If I really cared about the gas mileage I would have bought a Prius and you would be able to view my Testicles in a jar in my entertainment center!

 

[TKfunford]

I've just purchased the Sniper special forces for my Expedition. Should be here by Monday. Can't wait to get it tuned and see the difference. Next is to add a new cold air kit to it. Any suggestions on which to get? I have 06 w/ the 5.4 3 valve Eddie Bauer 4x4

 

[green03]

Do they support the 2006 expedition with the special forces already? I was unaware....

 

[TKfunford]

Yes we were refered by a friend to Dirtydirtyracing.com where Willie has been a ton of help

 

[Breezyjr]

I really need help here.
I have a similar problem. Got a Vortech SC installed, and the included diablo sport tuner doesn't communicate with the my 06 expy limited.

So, I need a programmer that will work with a sc and the 06 expy. I looked at sniper tuning, and it would appear the special forces software would work, but I wa waiting for a reply from the sales folks to confirm this. If anyone can confirm the sinper (and any other programmer) works with the SC expy, please let me know.

Thanks,
Breezyjr

 

[green03]

was the Vortech kit for the expedition? If so have you called vortech about it?

 

[ELVATO]

Yea, usually the SC kits come with a program of their own.

 

[Breezyjr]

No, the vortech kit was for an F150.... they don't make one for the 06 expy, vortech that is.

What I really want to know is if the sniper tuning kit would work. It seems like it would. Since it is completely customizable. The daiblosport tuner that came with the vortech, is not able to communicate to the ecm.

Any help please. My installer is desperately looking for something. I think we both figured since the f150 and expy shared the same engine, that the tuner would work... ooops.

Thanks.
Breezyjr


PS. I'll be posting pics in the show and tell forum soon. I give a proper hello.

 

[green03]

No sir I called and they don't have support for your truck with either the DeltaForce/Commando or the Special Forces yet.....
I was pretty sure about the non support of the 06......

Call SCT about a pro racer package if your shop knows how to tune...

 

[Breezyjr]

SCT???

I'll google it to..

Found it... thanks...

Are you for sure this one works??? I feel like if I hit one more brick wall, I'm going to lose it....


later,
Breezyjr

 

[green03]

Um if they don't have it then you are in trouble.........

 

[pronstar]

Originally posted by green03
Um if they don't have it then you are in trouble.........

That's for sure!

I'd call first, but I'm certain the SCT will work.
i ran it in my Expy, and a lot of Lighting & Mustang guys I know run SCT as well.

Just make sure your tuner knows what he's doing. The SCT software is extremely comprehensive, controlling all aspects of your ECU. You can *really* mess things up if you don't know what you're doing. It's a lot more complicated than a hand-held tuner...though I know a couple guys who taught themselves how to tune, though the had wideband 02 sensors and datalogging.

Where do you live?
You may want to consider a full custom tune.
Most tuners I've heard of, who know how to use the SCT software, are dealers as well...

 

[Breezyjr]

Well, I'm in Commerce Twp, MI and the truck is in the shop in Niagara Falls, Ontario.
His shop is a full on custom and restoration shop. I feel pretty confident they have a few mechanics there, that know what they're doing. But, I'll pass the info on to him.

Keep an eye out for my expy in the show and tell forum... I have some pics, of the partial install so far. It's sweeeet..

Breezyjr