Does the 302 Limited have 400hp or 375 for 2019?

[CougarCruiser]

I've seen some references to the 302 limited having the 400hp version that the Platinum has? Can anyone confirm or deny that?

 

[JExpedition07]

All I pull up for 400 hp is the Platinum for 2019.

 

[dlcorbett]

375 for xlts and ltds, only plats have 400

 

[shane_th_ee]

That's actually an open question and it applies to the 2018s as well. Careful readers have noted that the power ratings in the marketing materials have fine print where the 375hp number (for XLTs and LTDs) is achieved with 87 Octane while the 400hp number (for the Plat) is achieved with 93 Octane. And yet page 184 and 185 of the owners manual says that the engine is rated on 87 Octane but that you should use 93 Octane when higher performance is required; like when towing. Putting two and two together, it's highly likely that all of us have the 400hp engines, provided we use 93 octane...

 

[JExpedition07]

I thought I’ve read all fords crank power ratings are done on high octane already though. So there may actually be a difference.

 

[edizzle]

Only the Platty’s have that 4 hundo!!!

 

[shane_th_ee]

I thought I’ve read all fords crank power ratings are done on high octane already though. So there may actually be a difference.

On the one hand, JExpedition07 thought he read something somewhere.

On the other hand, page 15 of the 2018 brochure under "Powertrains..." contains power and torque output for the "3.5L EcoBoost V6". There are no footnotes. The same page contains power and torque output for the "3.5L EcoBoost V6 Platinum Series", to each of which is applied footnote 4. Footnote 4 is as follows: "4Horsepower[sic] and torque ratings achieved with 93-octane fuel." Page 185 of version 3 of the 2018 Expedition owners manual states: "For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer. See Towing (page 274)."

I know which one I think is more likely to be correct...

 

[JExpedition07]

Me, it’s always me.

 

[shane_th_ee]

On the one hand, JExpedition07 thought he read something somewhere.

Particularly since I do see that I get better gas mileage when towing if I use premium.

 

[1955moose]

Yeah I read that too. The Platinum has the 25 extra horsepower, all the turbo 3.5's run on the 91 octane to eek out the horsepower. They'll run on the 89, or 87, but not as well, not like the older 5.4.

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[JExpedition07]

Yeah I read that too. The Platinum has the 25 extra horsepower, all the turbo 3.5's run on the 91 octane to eek out the horsepower. They'll run on the 89, or 87, but not as well, not like the older 5.4.

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I read and from what I see the crank power ratings are done with 93 octane by ford. The engines are designed to run on 87 octane minimum but will not produce published power output unless on 91 octane gasoline. So there is a difference in power between the two.

I’d hope so, if I payed $80,000 for a Platinum and was told I get more power I’d want more available power.

 

[Uturn]

Since Fivestar does a lot of the tuning and they have you send the original tuning to them prior, maybe we can get them to chime in and let us know if there is a difference.

 

[1955moose]

We don't have above 91 octane at the pumps here in the Bay Area. You guys that have readily available 93 octane are lucky.

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[cmiles97]

Is there a physical difference between the XLT and Platinum motor? What is the extra HP attributed to? Software only? Bigger Turbo?

 

[1955moose]

From what I found it's the tune. On the Platinum, they tune it to 93 octane, the xlt to 87, that's the 25 [emoji470].

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[edizzle]

From what I found it's the tune. On the Platinum, they tune it to 93 octane, the xlt to 87, that's the 25 [emoji470].

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That is incorrect

 

[gbosin]

I've heard the platinums have a slightly larger turbo. Not sure if that is true or if it is just tuning.

 

[cmiles97]

That is incorrect

What is correct?

 

[Freightshaker]

375 for xlts and ltds, only plats have 400

Interesting that trim levels dictate hp. Not that it hasn't been done before though.
Often I'll see people ask questions and they feel listing extra information like what kind of wipers, brake fluid etc should I use in my 09 Limited EL. Btw, when I get wiper blades from Autozone and they ask me if it's 2 or 4wd I can't resist asking them if it matters if I'm in 2wd most of the time does it matter.

 

[rjdelp7]

A different exhaust, would give hp. The dual exhaust option 235hp, 1998-2007 Lincoln Town Cars, were about 30hp higher.