FordPass Questions

[ExpeditionAndy]

I have the FordPass App on my phone. With it I can start my my wife's 2017 Escape Titanium, lock and unlock the doors, see how much gas is in it, track the vehicle's location and other things.

I enabled it on my 17 Expedition Limited EL, but it doesn't give me any of those things. I have plugged in the iPhone, deactivated CarPlay Apps and activated FordPass But it will not give me the information that I get from my wife's vehicle.

Has anybody tried this on their new 3rd Gen Expeditions?

 

[Adieu]

I have the FordPass App on my phone. With it I can start my my wife's 2017 Escape Titanium, lock and unlock the doors, see how much gas is in it, track the vehicle's location and other things.

I enabled it on my 17 Expedition Limited EL, but it doesn't give me any of those things. I have plugged in the iPhone, deactivated CarPlay Apps and activated FordPass But it will not give me the information that I get from my wife's vehicle.

Has anybody tried this on their new 3rd Gen Expeditions?

Elementary, my dear Watson: YOUR app be registered to track your wife's Escape's GPS location


...so make three guesses as to who's got themselves registered with sole access to YOUR truck's current coordinates???

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Elementary, my dear Watson: YOUR app be registered to track your wife's Escape's GPS location


...so make three guesses as to who's got themselves registered with sole access to YOUR truck's current coordinates???

No, I have both on my phone and my wife isn't very technical. We haven't put FordPass on her phone yet but we will once I figure out why mine isn't doing what hers is.

 

[JExpedition07]

Pretty sure the expy never got those features unless you take it to the dealer and have things added. Same situation here with the 350. The trucks always tail the cars/crossovers in the tech department it seems.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Pretty sure the expy never got those features unless you take it to the dealer and have things added. Same situation here with the 350. The trucks always tail the cars/crossovers in the tech department it seems.

That's what I was wondering about. I can get a vehicle report from inside the truck but nothing from the phone.

 

[07xln]

Loki has gone over this before. The Expedition needs a special antenna or hub/router, I can’t remember exactly for the Ford pass to work as it should.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Loki has gone over this before. The Expedition needs a special antenna or hub/router, I can’t remember exactly for the Ford pass to work as it should.

I'll have to message him. Thanks, I figured he might know. Maybe @LokiWolf will drop by if he has time.

 

[LokiWolf]

Dropping by...

Our Expeditions with out the coming SmartLink OBDII device cannot interact remotely with the FordPass App.

The direct link via App Link does give some limited data on my 16 Edge(Fuel, Oil Life, Mileage), but never been able to even get that limited Data on the Expy.

I have the older system, Ford Remote Access installed on our 17. It does not give Fuel level or location, but it does let you Remote Start, and Lock/Unlock from the App. My wife uses it when leaving work(Her car is parked about a half a mile away, on the other side of the hospital). We had it on the 15, and it had to had the Antenna installed. The 17 already had the Antenna, just needed the modules inside installed.

Your Escape probably has the Sync Connect Module installed, if you can see the Fuel Data, and so forth live without the phone attached. Sync Connect has to be installed from the factory. 17 Escape was one of first capable.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Dropping by...

Our Expeditions with out the coming SmartLink OBDII device cannot interact remotely with the FordPass App.

The direct link via App Link does give some limited data on my 16 Edge(Fuel, Oil Life, Mileage), but never been able to even get that limited Data on the Expy.

I have the older system, Ford Remote Access installed on our 17. It does not give Fuel level or location, but it does let you Remote Start, and Lock/Unlock from the App. My wife uses it when leaving work(Her car is parked about a half a mile away, on the other side of the hospital). We had it on the 15, and it had to had the Antenna installed. The 17 already had the Antenna, just needed the modules inside installed.

Your Escape probably has the Sync Connect Module installed, if you can see the Fuel Data, and so forth live without the phone attached. Sync Connect has to be installed from the factory. 17 Escape was one of first capable.

Thanks Ray. If I go to the dealer would they know what I would have to have installed in the 17 to have the FordPass work with the phone or am I better off going in with a list of things they need to install?

I can see a real benefit for doing this on my Expedition for me, but I am really glad that it works on my wife's Escape because she will have to walk any where from 1/4 to 1/2 mile from where she parks the car to her new office.

 

[LokiWolf]

Thanks Ray. If I go to the dealer would they know what I would have to have installed in the 17 to have the FordPass work with the phone or am I better off going in with a list of things they need to install?

I can see a real benefit for doing this on my Expedition for me, but I am really glad that it works on my wife's Escape because she will have to walk any where from 1/4 to 1/2 mile from where she parks the car to her new office.

Currently there is nothing to allow FordPass to work with your Expy. You can get Ford Remote Access installed(Only Lock/Unlock, and Remote Start, no Telemetry). Probably going to be in the neighborhood of $400-$500 for the parts and install at the dealer. There are videos and people out there selling the kits, but like me, you have extended Warranty. Not doing Major screwing with the system without Dealer involved, so they cannot question Warranty. I see in your Sig pictures you have the antenna, so your install won't be like $800 like it was on our 15.

The second option is to wait for Ford to actually release the SmartLink. It will be an OBDII module, that will give the same features as Sync Connect in your wife's Escape, and will use the FordPass App. That is what I am doing for my Edge. I sent a query into the Ford Electronics Team a few days ago, and hopefully will get an estimate on the release date.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...2016-vehicles-with-connectivity-features.html

 

[jeff kushner]

Kinda looks like option 2 is the no-brainer here for those of us who don't have a loved one needing the remote access NOW.

Thanks for posting!

jeff

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Currently there is nothing to allow FordPass to work with your Expy. You can get Ford Remote Access installed(Only Lock/Unlock, and Remote Start, no Telemetry). Probably going to be in the neighborhood of $400-$500 for the parts and install at the dealer. There are videos and people out there selling the kits, but like me, you have extended Warranty. Not doing Major screwing with the system without Dealer involved, so they cannot question Warranty. I see in your Sig pictures you have the antenna, so your install won't be like $800 like it was on our 15.

The second option is to wait for Ford to actually release the SmartLink. It will be an OBDII module, that will give the same features as Sync Connect in your wife's Escape, and will use the FordPass App. That is what I am doing for my Edge. I sent a query into the Ford Electronics Team a few days ago, and hopefully will get an estimate on the release date.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...2016-vehicles-with-connectivity-features.html

Thanks Ray, that sounds like a better plan.

My question is this; I have the Allstate Drivewise module that plugs into the OBDII port. Does anybody make a splitter so you can plug in two devices at once? or is there another OBDII port in the vehicle?

 

[LokiWolf]

Thanks Ray, that sounds like a better plan.

My question is this; I have the Allstate Drivewise module that plugs into the OBDII port. Does anybody make a splitter so you can plug in two devices at once? or is there another OBDII port in the vehicle?

First thing...remove that Allstate Module and send it back. Not a fan! They basically are recording and reporting Everything you do. They say they won’t use it to increase your premium or give the data to police. That is just a matter of time. Where will they draw the line? Speed? Accelerated too quickly? Didn’t put your seatbelt on once?

But to answer your question, yes. I used to use one on my Passat. Kept one plugged in for my digital gauges from P3, and the other for programming and flashing. I had no issues.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

First thing...remove that Allstate Module and send it back. Not a fan! They basically are recording and reporting Everything you do. They say they won’t use it to increase your premium or give the data to police. That is just a matter of time. Where will they draw the line? Speed? Accelerated too quickly? Didn’t put your seatbelt on once?

But to answer your question, yes. I used to use one on my Passat. Kept one plugged in for my digital gauges from P3, and the other for programming and flashing. I had no issues.

I've been all through that with them. It measures time of day, braking- essentially how fast you decelerate, and speed above and below 80 MPH. It doesn't monitor GPS, the Ford black boxes already do that and the police can get that info anytime there is an investigation. It saves me 5- 10% per vehicle based on driving habits. I'm going to keep it for now. Right now we just have my wife and I, and our 21 year old daughter who is still going to college on our plan. Our oldest daughter (25) still lives with us - just graduated college last year is on her own policy now and our son (28) is on his own so once number 2 daughter graduates our premiums should drop significantly.

 

[kaz8772]

You can actually purchase a Drone Mobile unit which will interface with your vehicle and allow you access to remote start, interior temp, door lock status, and many other features. I had one on my 2010 which was hardwired the drone mobile unit, the aftermarket alarm, and the factory keyless to control it. You would hit the factory keyless lock and it would arm and lock. You hit unlock and it would disarm and unlock doors. You would push lock on factory keyless three times and it would remote start (all using only the factory keyless remote). If the alarm went off it would call drone mobile app to notify. Worked really slick. The newer vehicles (newer than 2010) just plug into the bus system so you get even more functions (turn on heated seats and such).

I'll be putting it on my new 2017 F150 also.

I don't work for them - was just a user and I installed electronics back in the day for 15 years.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

You can actually purchase a Drone Mobile unit which will interface with your vehicle and allow you access to remote start, interior temp, door lock status, and many other features. I had one on my 2010 which was hardwired the drone mobile unit, the aftermarket alarm, and the factory keyless to control it. You would hit the factory keyless lock and it would arm and lock. You hit unlock and it would disarm and unlock doors. You would push lock on factory keyless three times and it would remote start (all using only the factory keyless remote). If the alarm went off it would call drone mobile app to notify. Worked really slick. The newer vehicles (newer than 2010) just plug into the bus system so you get even more functions (turn on heated seats and such).

I'll be putting it on my new 2017 F150 also.

I don't work for them - was just a user and I installed electronics back in the day for 15 years.

I have the factory remote start on mine. The FordPass system allows you to start the vehicle from anywhere with your cell phone. It's a nice feature if you park far enough away that you key won't start. As long as the vehicle is parked in a cellular area and can get a signal, it will start.

 

[Flexpedition]

You would push lock on factory keyless three times and it would remote start

And if anybody simultaneously press the 7/8 & 9/0 buttons on the drivers door keypad the truck would start. During the run time the alarm was disabled. (ie: glass break, tilt, dome light supervision, interior motion) Which is why mine was removed.

 

[MADEXP]

Andy, did you ever solve this issue? I have a 2017 KR and I am looking at this...