Fuel avg MPG sux

[Janky]

'18 Max with tow package and similar numbers to OP: 13-ish around town (very short trips) and 19-22 highway. I also have a roof rack and often am carrying a rocketbox, which drops the highway numbers a bit.

I also tried running ECO and don't think it made a significant change. Certainly drives like a turd so I went back to normal setting.

The really depressing thing is I've been keeping track of consumption by hand and it seems the dash number is actually about 1 MPG too high . I was considering using the tools/utilities to correct the accuracy, but I just got new tires so I want to see if there is any change.

 

[75Flh]

Why would tow package have that much MPG difference than non Max Tow??

Max tow has different gears in the differential ....higher numerical gears make the engine spin faster for a set speed...so it will use more fuel to run the same speed limit.

3.31 gears vs 3.73 will turn less rpm on the freeway by maybe 100 to 200 rpm

You gain more pulling power with the higher gears when towing due to the mechanical advantages

 

[LazSlate]

Does 93 octane really provide better MPG than 87? If so i need to ALWAYS runs 93. I just thought 93 burned cleaner, provided more power ..

Octane def affects MPG depending on the vehicle type, ambient conditions, altitude.
The fuel flow is always the same on all octanes but the power generated varies as the engine will detune accordingly.

 

[smstroben]

My wife's Expedition (2022 303A MAX 4X4 HD Tow) and my F150 (200k mile 2013 5.0 SCREW 4X4 tuned and leveled with 285/75R17) get the same average MPG (~14.5). I too am not impressed with the Ecoboost engines. Really wish they'd offer the 5.0 in the expedition.

 

[JAMADOR]

As an aside to my prior post on the MPG of our Max, I'm in a 4cyl Explorer while the Expy gets cam phasers replaced. Steady cruise at 70mph, it's giving an indicated 35mpg +/-3-4, saw as high as 42 while closing/drafting a semi.
Thinking an Explorer may replace my 10 year old Malibu, really liking it in the week I've had it, so far.

 

[MattG]

My SPP gets worse mileage than my 5.0, probably 2mpg less.

 

[LazSlate]

I drive mostly short city driving and looked last night I have been getting 18.6
Timberline with 93 Octane.

 

[wakeboarder]

I was considering using the tools/utilities to correct the accuracy, but I just got new tires so I want to see if there is any change.

If I remember correctly Engineering Test Mode is the screen that allows you to adjust the mileage on the 2019’s. I’m not sure if it is the same on the later years.

 

[kryichek]

21, 3.73 HD Tow.... last 7k miles I've avg 18.3. half city/half hwy. Mostly in ECO.

 

[spiderman865]

I too have a 19 Limited Stealth HD tow with the 3.73. In Los Angeles, I get 12.5-14 regularly within the city and I baby it. Open highway, 18-20 mpg with maybe gains to 21 mpg in Eco Mode. I imagine people netting better mpg have the non tow package with the taller center section gearing otherwise I don't know how people are getting 22 plus mpg on the highway? Could it be 93 octane which we can't get here in CA

Getting those type of numbers too. '20 Platinum, 24K miles, HD tow, 3:73 rear. While it isn't great, I still enjoy driving it and fits my lifestyle. I have no desire to get rid of it.

 

[SyndicateZ]

I have a 2019 limited HD tow standard size. When I fill up the tank it says I have 318 miles to Empty. Is this correct? does your standard sized expy's show the same mileage to empty after a full fill?

 

[rd618]

I have a 2019 limited HD tow standard size. When I fill up the tank it says I have 318 miles to Empty. Is this correct? does your standard sized expy's show the same mileage to empty after a full fill?

If I drive aggressively (like in sport mode), yes, it goes down that low.
Normally city driving it is around ~360-380
If it's all highway around 70mph I can get it up to 450-470

 

[2018ExpyPlatinum]

I have a 2019 limited HD tow standard size. When I fill up the tank it says I have 318 miles to Empty. Is this correct? does your standard sized expy's show the same mileage to empty after a full fill?

Read the book. Range is based on your current gas mileage. If you're doing all city, it'll be low. If you're on a trip doing all highway, it'll be much higher. On trips, mine is close to 500. It'll adjust as your driving (city or hwy) changes. Sounds like you don't understand this is a 6000 pound brick going down the road. You want gas mileage, buy a Corolla.

 

[dlcorbett]

I have a 2019 limited HD tow standard size. When I fill up the tank it says I have 318 miles to Empty. Is this correct? does your standard sized expy's show the same mileage to empty after a full fill?

Do you tow? If your recent mpg avg is low, your mte will be low.

 

[Gumby]

Just figured I would add my $0.02. I just had a 2022 Explorer LTD Hybrid as a loaner while my 2018 Plati was in getting some work done. I can honestly say that the Explorer was returning approx the same mileage as my Expy. Crazy...and I wasn't pounding the Explorer at all. The stupid Eco and EV coach is kinda of addicting lol. But I was very surprised that the Plati was in the same ballpark as the Hybrid. That is all.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Read the book. Range is based on your current gas mileage. If you're doing all city, it'll be low. If you're on a trip doing all highway, it'll be much higher. On trips, mine is close to 500. It'll adjust as your driving (city or hwy) changes. Sounds like you don't understand this is a 6000 pound brick going down the road. You want gas mileage, buy a Corolla.

I dont tow, but thank you for clarifying . I didnt realize the "miles to empty" just after fill up would be a lower number if based on history MPG. So if i only drove in the highway and getting better MPG average the miles to empty would be alot higher after fill up. I see..

I drive in"standard" mode all the time. I dont speed from light to light. I accelerate lightly and im still only getting 12 MPG city. I dont stomp on the gas... The truck is rated 17 city on the sticker. My old ass 2007 Navigator V8 is getting the same gas mileage city as this 2019 3.5 v6 "ecoboost" .That seems weird to me. I know its a big truck, I have driven big trucks (nother newer than 2007) all my life. And this things gets the same gas mileage as my old v8's. Im not impressed. Lol i just figured the newer v6 turbo engine would be somewhat better gas mileage compared to older V8 engines. I dont really care about spending money on gas. I was just thinking something is wrong with the engine and it guzzling excessive gas before brining it to ford for a diagnostics live data logger check or something. I have only had the truck for 2 months and still learning its tendencies. Thanks to everyone that responded.

 

[2018ExpyPlatinum]

I don't know if you just bought this truck or not. Assuming it's got more than 10K miles, maybe you should change the air filter. Maybe the spark plugs. Are the windows open or closed? What do you carry around inside all the time? My wife carries a box that must weigh 20 pounds with shoes, towels, jumper cables, a couple of wrenches and screwdrivers, ice scrapers, etc. (You can see her fathers influence there). It's not a lot, but it all adds up. IDK, it does sound odd to be that low, but mileage will vary.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Do you tow? If your recent mpg avg is low, your mte will be low.

Nope I dont tow.

I don't know if you just bought this truck or not. Assuming it's got more than 10K miles, maybe you should change the air filter. Maybe the spark plugs. Are the windows open or closed? What do you carry around inside all the time? My wife carries a box that must weigh 20 pounds with shoes, towels, jumper cables, a couple of wrenches and screwdrivers, ice scrapers, etc. (You can see her fathers influence there). It's not a lot, but it all adds up. IDK, it does sound odd to be that low, but mileage will vary.

I have litteraly Nothing in the truck. Just my 225 pound fat a**. I bought the truck 2 months ago at 56,800 miles and it now has 58,200. I should go "test drive" another 19 standar expy and monitor the Fuel Economy display while driving and see if I get similar mpg with same driving style.

 

[JAMADOR]

Just figured I would add my $0.02. I just had a 2022 Explorer LTD Hybrid as a loaner while my 2018 Plati was in getting some work done. I can honestly say that the Explorer was returning approx the same mileage as my Expy. Crazy...and I wasn't pounding the Explorer at all. The stupid Eco and EV coach is kinda of addicting lol. But I was very surprised that the Plati was in the same ballpark as the Hybrid. That is all.

That's shocking, I'm getting much higher [indicated] MPG in the 2022 Explorer XLT (2.3EcoBoost) loaner, than I see in our Max Ltd.
I've been thinking about buying my mom's 21 Explorer Plat off of her since she never drives it. Not sure how the 3.0TT compares to the 2.3T in efficiency.

 

[rd618]

That's shocking, I'm getting much higher [indicated] MPG in the 2022 Explorer XLT (2.3EcoBoost) loaner, than I see in our Max Ltd.
I've been thinking about buying my mom's 21 Explorer Plat off of her since she never drives it. Not sure how the 3.0TT compares to the 2.3T in efficiency.

I've driven both, the 3.0tt is much quicker, fuel economy is a bit worse but not by much. You are not in boost as much with the larger v6.