Blackscreen67
Born to spool
So after having logged 500 miles on this limited 4x4 302a with CCD and 22s and tow pack I find myself wishing there were some serious improvements to basic components.
Most importantly and yet basic of all things Ford over looked would have to be the brakes. Plain and simple the brakes are significantly undersized, and can barely slow the vehicle on the drop without coast through and brake drag. I wouldn't tow 5klbs let alone 9k lbs with this thing. Simply too dangerous being Ford neglected basic safety features. This will result in me upgrading pads and rotors to a better design that'll actually do the job.
The suspension needs alot of work. Handling wise there too much body roll for an electronically controlled system. There's very little in terms of stability adjust and planting of the vehicle. The only real setting that provides some sense of handling ability is the sport mode which creates a harsher tire bounce aswell. The other settings are the equivalent of a car with the handling of a waterbed. Not even to mention The tread design and 22" rim combo leave you on the hunts for flat concrete to not feel I like a wind up set of choppers.
The steering is another big pet peeve of mine. It's way too artificial, and potentially enables too easy over compensation of the wheel in circumstances.
To much reliance of electronics rather than driver.
As far as I'm concerned it's a nice car yes, but Ford place significantly too much emphasis on finishes such as interior/ exteriors which are the ticket driving items and yet cut corners in the basic needs of safety and structure.
Gas milege for in city driving in horrific averaging around 12.5 aswell which is inexcusable for a twin turbo v6. Only thing that explains this is crap factory tuning, which is exactly what it is.
Over all it gets a 6 out of 10 in my book, and frankly having owned a 2015 AWD Durango RT with the 8sp..... the Durango exceeds all the above and out performs on every level, yet just lacks some interior room and couple bells and whistles.
It's frankly embarrassing that Durango was loaded out at $51k with a 380hp non boosted V8 and averaged 13mpgs in city driving with not much less weight, handled better, and drove smoother with non electronic steering and 20s.
The Durango is rated to tow 6-9k without added towing enhancements, and the Expedition is only designed for 5-6k, and the towing enhancements aren't making any load bearing changes. That tells you alot on the OEM suspension being underbuilt from Ford.
Most importantly and yet basic of all things Ford over looked would have to be the brakes. Plain and simple the brakes are significantly undersized, and can barely slow the vehicle on the drop without coast through and brake drag. I wouldn't tow 5klbs let alone 9k lbs with this thing. Simply too dangerous being Ford neglected basic safety features. This will result in me upgrading pads and rotors to a better design that'll actually do the job.
The suspension needs alot of work. Handling wise there too much body roll for an electronically controlled system. There's very little in terms of stability adjust and planting of the vehicle. The only real setting that provides some sense of handling ability is the sport mode which creates a harsher tire bounce aswell. The other settings are the equivalent of a car with the handling of a waterbed. Not even to mention The tread design and 22" rim combo leave you on the hunts for flat concrete to not feel I like a wind up set of choppers.
The steering is another big pet peeve of mine. It's way too artificial, and potentially enables too easy over compensation of the wheel in circumstances.
To much reliance of electronics rather than driver.
As far as I'm concerned it's a nice car yes, but Ford place significantly too much emphasis on finishes such as interior/ exteriors which are the ticket driving items and yet cut corners in the basic needs of safety and structure.
Gas milege for in city driving in horrific averaging around 12.5 aswell which is inexcusable for a twin turbo v6. Only thing that explains this is crap factory tuning, which is exactly what it is.
Over all it gets a 6 out of 10 in my book, and frankly having owned a 2015 AWD Durango RT with the 8sp..... the Durango exceeds all the above and out performs on every level, yet just lacks some interior room and couple bells and whistles.
It's frankly embarrassing that Durango was loaded out at $51k with a 380hp non boosted V8 and averaged 13mpgs in city driving with not much less weight, handled better, and drove smoother with non electronic steering and 20s.
The Durango is rated to tow 6-9k without added towing enhancements, and the Expedition is only designed for 5-6k, and the towing enhancements aren't making any load bearing changes. That tells you alot on the OEM suspension being underbuilt from Ford.
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