Headlight weirdness

Discussion in '4th Gen - 2018 - present' started by Markg2, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Mike Wolfe

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    Manual shows
    Front direction indicator. 7444NA
     
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    Getting dark now. 2013 projectors with halogens for comparison. Highs, lows, front end.

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    IMO, it's the stock bulbs! These look great. Lows, lows w/fogs (which are bright enough to eliminate the "hard" cutoff in the projectors now), highs.
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    Correction on this: The projector on my F150 has the high/low in a single housing. Engaging the highs reveals the rest of the beam. The Expedition is obviously two separate housings - a projector for lows, and a reflector for highs. Just assumed they were the same without really looking so I apologize for that misinformation.
     
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    Good morning all
    First drive in dark since LED install
    Installed the Hikari Philips Lumileds 12000 Lumen LED bulbs in low & high beams on our 2018 EXPY XLT with projector lenses for low beams
    Huge difference in brightness
    So much better than halogens
    Cutoff the same for low beams but very happy with the increased brightness
    Use the fog lights with the low beams which helps
    High beams are amazing
    Well worth the $200.00 for the low beams, high beams & fog lights
     
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    For those with beamtech or ravmix LED bulbs any radio interference. I see they are half the price of the Hikari and wanted to know how they are performing.
     
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    I'm sure you've gotten way brighter 'below the line' low beam results. But it doesn't help us in the mountains. The only way a projector type beam works up here (from what I've learned afterward) is for the housing to be automatically adjusting to the incline/decline of the vehicle.

    For the next month or so we can't do anything with the factory headlights. However, when that time period is over, we're definitely looking into the bulbs and shocks suggested here.

    You guys are really terrific!

    Thanks,

    Mark
     
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    Do all the 4th gens come with projectors? LED light generally performs worse than halogen bulbs in reflector setups, the light is more intense but less focused and illuminates less area. Most perceive an improvement but it’s less safe than the halogen bulbs. For those reasons and the light being poorly focused blinds oncoming drivers adding even more risk, lots of science behind lighting and intensity does not equate to quality and safety. I’m not sure how the headlight assemblies are setup on 4th gens. LED is NOT always a better performer nor always safer in automotive application just throwing this general knowledge out there. It is great if you have the proper projector setup but otherwise not so much.

    A perfect example of this is LED bulbs in stock 3rd gen housings perform much worse than the halogen bulbs provided stock.
     
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    Even if you could remove/modify the deflector you would then (I'm fairly certain) not be able to adjust the headlight since the adjustment is up/down not to the right as conventional?
     
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    This is probably a really dumb question, but... if the front end is raised 2" due to the shocks, are you then describing a vehicle that is (from the side view) sitting at an angle with the front 2" higher than the rear?

    Mark
     

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