lift with air ride

[Platinum 322]

Hey guys, new to the forum I’m sure this question has been asked but I have heard that you can put the ready lift on a platinum with air ride if you reverse sides on the shocks on the rear.. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks

 

[Lou Hamilton]

This thread should answer what you are seeking.

I have not read that the shocks can be reversed, but there seems to be an adjustable bracket that can be purchase to help with the sensor placement/adjustment.

It is beyond my skill set and the two places I called have no experience with the CCD suspension on the Expeditions and I do not want to be their guinea pig.

 

[LokiWolf]

No Expy 14+ has air ride.

Not even the 18+.

CCD uses variable dampening via the Magneride system.


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[Dakota4ce]

Traxda is working this out. They are making a bracket kit to relocate the sensor rod mounts. Front is figured out, rear is close.....I am keeping close contact with them, as I want one as soon as they’re ready.


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[LokiWolf]

Traxda is working this out. They are making a bracket kit to relocate the sensor rod mounts. Front is figured out, rear is close.....I am keeping close contact with them, as I want one as soon as they’re ready.


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Aren’t there some longer Rods already available?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/273997373838


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[Platinum 322]

Here’s a picture of a 2019 from a dealer in Utah who states he does it all the time and all he does is reverse the shocks from side to side!! That’s all I know

 

[LokiWolf]

Show your Lifted 3rd Gens
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...hp?posts/368160/&share_type=t&link_source=app

Neil T Casey in that thread did it on a 15+ Platinum with CCD, did new links and swapped the struts side to side in the rear. So it appears to be a thing!


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[Dakota4ce]

I think Traxda’s thinking with new brackets is to not change the geometry by just using extended links. But I am sure both work fine!


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[Dakota4ce]

I think there are two issues: linkage length and wiring length for controlling the strut. I think switching the struts from side to side alleviates the problem of the wiring to the strut being too short. Because the lift kit requires that you flip the struts around? Does someone know the answer to this?

Then assume the pushrod from the sensor down to the A-arm needs to be a little longer when you lift it because the angle of a arm is different post-lift. Is this correct?


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[Fozzy]

I have a lifted platinum with 35’s. Swapping the shocks around gives the wires room and the links are easy to change. A guy on this forum sells them on eBay. You need to take the sensor measurements before you lift it and adjust the new rods to match. I had mine on without the rods and measured a new one on the lot. The rear was roughly .5” longer and the front was .5” shorter if I remember right. One sensor is pushing and one pulling. Depending on your wheel offset and tire choice you may need to trim your steps and fenders.



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[Platinum 322]

Thank you all for the help!!

 

[Dakota4ce]

I have a lifted platinum with 35’s. Swapping the shocks around gives the wires room and the links are easy to change. A guy on this forum sells them on eBay. You need to take the sensor measurements before you lift it and adjust the new rods to match. I had mine on without the rods and measured a new one on the lot. The rear was roughly .5” longer and the front was .5” shorter if I remember right. One sensor is pushing and one pulling. Depending on your wheel offset and tire choice you may need to trim your steps and fenders.



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Thank you for summing it up! Perfect.


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[Dakota4ce]

Thank you for summing it up! Perfect.


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So armed with this knowledge I now get it--the Traxda kit will soon allow this same install but without the need for the adjustable links per my understanding. Instead of needing longer/shorter links they have new brackets to make the lengths correct. You will still need to swap the shocks from side to side to create the correct clocking for the wiring.

The dealer referenced above that does it all the time simply swapping the shocks from side to side must be doing them on non-CCD trucks.

All makes sense now!

I am going to wait on Traxda for a bit, then if that does not come around I will grab the links. I think my dealer is more comfortable with the bracket solution vs the link solution at this time for some reason. When in reality they accomplish the same exact end result.....I received this warning: "if the lift causes a failure then its not covered by any warranty." Okay guys....makes sense. Not really but OK!

 

[LokiWolf]

So armed with this knowledge I now get it--the Traxda kit will soon allow this same install but without the need for the adjustable links per my understanding. Instead of needing longer/shorter links they have new brackets to make the lengths correct. You will still need to swap the shocks from side to side to create the correct clocking for the wiring.

The dealer referenced above that does it all the time simply swapping the shocks from side to side must be doing them on non-CCD trucks.

All makes sense now!

I am going to wait on Traxda for a bit, then if that does not come around I will grab the links. I think my dealer is more comfortable with the bracket solution vs the link solution at this time for some reason. When in reality they accomplish the same exact end result.....I received this warning: "if the lift causes a failure then its not covered by any warranty." Okay guys....makes sense. Not really but OK!

There is absolutely no reason the shocks need to be swapped sides on a Non-CCD truck.

The only reason they need to be swapped is BECAUSE of the CCD wiring.


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[Fozzy]

I drove around on my lifted Platinum for almost 4,000 miles without the extended links. I can not tell a difference in ride quality or performance after adding the links. The sensors have plenty of travel so you will not break them or the brackets. Relocating the sensors would be a huge pain and extra brackets and bolts to maintain. Just go look at them. I bet the other guys don’t make the bracket in the end. To complicated for a small sales market.




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[Dakota4ce]

There is absolutely no reason the shocks need to be swapped sides on a Non-CCD truck.

The only reason they need to be swapped is BECAUSE of the CCD wiring.


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That makes sense, sorry. The dealer obviously has to be addressing the linkage length somehow...


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[Dakota4ce]

I drove around on my lifted Platinum for almost 4,000 miles without the extended links. I can not tell a difference in ride quality or performance after adding the links. The sensors have plenty of travel so you will not break them or the brackets. Relocating the sensors would be a huge pain and extra brackets and bolts to maintain. Just go look at them. I bet the other guys don’t make the bracket in the end. To complicated for a small sales market.




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So you have no error codes? Well then why are people so wound up about the linkages then?

They are making the brackets. They’re already made for the front and they’re just re-doing the rears. I spoke to them.

I would imagine it’s the lower bracket—no sensor relocation, just a new lower bracket. No extra bolts.


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[Dakota4ce]

I think they’re altering this one...


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[Fozzy]

So you have no error codes? Well then why are people so wound up about the linkages then?

They are making the brackets. They’re already made for the front and they’re just re-doing the rears. I spoke to them.

I would imagine it’s the lower bracket—no sensor relocation, just a new lower bracket. No extra bolts.


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I had the dealer check for error codes without the links and there was none. Your shocks will be in a different valving setting without the links. But I couldn’t tell the difference with the lift and 35’s. Maybe on stock 22’s you could. I need to see if Lokiwolf knows if there is a Forscan code anywhere you can look at that sensor or read data from it. That is crazy they are making the brackets. You can make the links yourself if you had to. Just by going to the hardware store. Cutting, bending, drilling and powder coating the bracket must be worth it to them to say it works on a CCD Expy.


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[Dakota4ce]

Roger that. Makes sense. That you for the info and insight. I could not tell you what their reasoning might be. Maybe keeping the adjustable parts to a minimum? They have been very nice in chatting.

Still trying to determine how much I can ramp up tire width on stock 22s with the +44 offset. Another aspect of the project.


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