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Lincoln emblem on 2020 Platinum engine?

Discussion in '4th Gen - 2018 - present' started by BrianF, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. LokiWolf

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    Some clarity on the Motors:

    ALL 4th Gen Expeditions have the same Motor.
    The Platinum is merely a tune difference from the rest. When tuned aftermarket they all have the same potential, and a Limited will get no less power than a Platinum tuned.

    The Navi has the HO or otherwise in some cases referred to as the Raptor Motor. There are several physical differences. Turbos, Pistons, and a few other things. The HO motors run a slightly lower compression to handle the additional power.


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    do we know if any parts of the engine assembly (other than the cover) that can physically visibly identify & distinguish the HO motor / components vs. the non-HO?

    the sound thing & mileage got me thinking Brian might have an actual HO - which would be insane
     
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    I remember Deadman saying his wife's Navigator is so much louder than his Expedition. Maybe this was an experiment or a huge goof. I would say crawl under there and compare it to a Expedition and a Navigator .
     
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    Man...an actual unicorn??? Always heard stories of muscle cars back in the 60s "accidentally" getting the bigger engine or LSD rear.
     
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    There must be quite a few QC stations along the way, including the last one as it exits the factory. Don't they pop the hood at some point to make sure theres a motor in there?

    Also, what about the dealer when they did the PDI? No issues there? Seems to me there are quite a few potential spots to call out the issue, but then again weirder things have happened. Remember the Jeep Wrangler issues getting mismatched fender colors....yeah me too.
     
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    Excellent question! Let me do some research and ask those who know the HO motor backwards and forwards.

    I would be able to tell with a FORSCAN scan and vehicle detail report...but guessing @BrianF doesn’t have FORSCAN and an adapter.


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    IF this were a unicorn - which WOULD be crazy -

    IMO whether it’s just the cover, or the entire HO setup - theres no way the factory folks did not approve it.

    having said that, if it IS a full HO, the dealership inspection fail has no excuse. there are so many legal caveats to selling a vehicle with a power plant that much more powerful than the stock expy spec. i think corporate would want to know this & address it with you.

    my concern would be if are there any other drive related components in the Navi that are upgraded in comparison to the expy, & whether some of the expy parts could handle the power without long term issues.

    if there are, i’ll bet you would have a good case to force Ford to replace those parts with the navi equivalent - at least for longevity & peace of mind.

    and - what if you were a customer who didn’t want the extra power / noise / reduction in mpg?

    the list goes on how it could be a headache for ford -
     
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    What about the emissions sticker on the hood. What does it say? We can compare that maybe.
     
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    I would remove the engine cover and see if there's a hidden message written on the bottom from the lineman at the factory. Maybe it's a scavenger hunt that will point to other Navi upgrades!
     
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    Was the expedition purchased new or used?

    If it was used the 1st owner could of changed cover out.
     
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