Lincoln HP vs Exp Hp upgrade

[Sowie1701]

Does anyone know if the Hp increase in the Lincoln is only due to a different tune or are there mechanical differences? If it’s just a tune it would be interesting if Ford would sell it as an upgrade and not affect warranty.


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[Artie]

Does anyone know if the Hp increase in the Lincoln is only due to a different tune or are there mechanical differences? If it’s just a tune it would be interesting if Ford would sell it as an upgrade and not affect warranty.


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The Navigator has the same engine as the Raptor and the Expy does not. I couldn’t tell you what the differences are beyond that but it’s been discussed on here before so someone will chime in.

 

[RhinoQuartz]

It appears the compression ratio is different.

Navigator/Raptor - 10.0:1
Expedition/F150 - 10.5:1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoBoost_engine

 

[Adieu]

If you gotta throw parts at it, might as well upgrade to the GT spec

 

[Grey ghost]

Get a 5 star tune and have more power.

 

[stricnine]

If you are looking for a warrantied tune/performance upgrade, ROUSH may be your ticket. Here’s a link to their performance pac for the F150. Should be the same for the Expedition:

https://www.roushperformance.com/parts/f150-parts-category/f150-performance-pacs-category.html

 

[Grey ghost]

The stage 1 adds a whopping 18 horsepower. I'll keep my 5star tuner vortec cold air kit and 180 thermostat

 

[Sowie1701]

I have done as much searching as I could and have only found that the compression ratio is less on the raptor/Lincoln. I would think this would mean different pistons but I guess the heads could be different also in order to reduce the compression. I still think it would be interesting to know what they did different to make the extra 50hp. A tune would have been the easiest and maybe by decreasing compression they could play with the turbo boost pressures more.


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[Artie]

I have done as much searching as I could and have only found that the compression ratio is less on the raptor/Lincoln. I would think this would mean different pistons but I guess the heads could be different also in order to reduce the compression. I still think it would be interesting to know what they did different to make the extra 50hp. A tune would have been the easiest and maybe by decreasing compression they could play with the turbo boost pressures more.


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You could check the Ford parts website and confirm this. I’d assume you’re correct and it’s mostly in the bottom end.

 

[OrangeWhipX3]

The 3.5 HO has different pistons, exhaust manifolds and turbos

 

[Grey ghost]

This may be why 5 star was enthusiastic about my going to a 180 degree thermostat.it gives an additional margin of safety to dial in more boost without the added risk of detonation.actually, if modified correctly the higher compression will give slightly better throttle response.
I'm not worried about these ho engines mine out runs them any way.

 

[Deadman]

This may be why 5 star was enthusiastic about my going to a 180 degree thermostat.it gives an additional margin of safety to dial in more boost without the added risk of detonation.actually, if modified correctly the higher compression will give slightly better throttle response.
I'm not worried about these ho engines mine out runs them any way.

Until they tune their HO.........

 

[Grey ghost]

Until I get serious and port the heads and a bunch of other stuff.

 

[Deadman]

Until I get serious and port the heads and a bunch of other stuff.

Do you really live in a world where you think they can't do all of these exact same things too and end with bigger numbers?

 

[Grey ghost]

Absolutely. I just think outside the box when that point comes

 

[16plati]

Until they tune their HO.........

They already have and 2019 expeditions have ~10rwhp and ~24rwtq on the 2019 f150 3.5L HO. @Grey ghost is correct, he should not have to worry about the HOs

 

[Sowie1701]

Anyone test a Lincoln with same tune?


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[Sowie1701]

Never mind. I didn’t realize the F150 was the HO.


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