Moog front hubs any good?

[scottdm]

2018 Expedition Limited 4x4 and front hubs/wheel bearings are getting noisy. Talked with the dealer since the repair should be covered under my Ford extended warranty, but they say the Motorcraft front wheel hubs for the Expedition are on indefinite national backorder. Tired of the growly noise, and just want it to be fixed, so wondering if anyone has any experience with Moog hubs or other aftermarket hubs? I'll probably just pay out of pocket since the Ford warranty isn't much help if they can't get parts! Here's the Moog bearing I was checking out https://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-515181. Looks like Rock Auto has it available for $175/side.

 

[Scottorama]

I call bullcrap on the dealer.... i just had my front driver side wheel bearing replaced last month with no wait time. I would definately try a different dealer.

 

[scottdm]

I called a couple other dealers and they also confirmed the national backorder status on the front hub assemblies.

 

[Jettix2]

I called a couple other dealers and they also confirmed the national backorder status on the front hub assemblies.

Maybe it’s on Backorder bec Ford is updating the crap factory designed part that only lasts 30-40k miles?? That would be great if they were!

 

[GlennSullivan]

Moog is a major (probably the largest) aftermarket suspension parts manufacturer and has been around since the 1920's. They are now part of the Tenneco / Driv / Federal-Mogul family of automotive OEM / Aftermarket manufacturing companies.

 

[Rob6805]

Yes, Moog is excellent.

 

[TheDoug]

I had front passenger side replaced at almost 25k and driver side at 31k... Both motor craft. I swear one is getting noisy again at 42k. Maybe moog is way to go

 

[wakeboarder]

Does it make sense to just replace the wheel bearings and not the whole hub assembly?

 

[scottdm]

Does it make sense to just replace the wheel bearings and not the whole hub assembly?

My understanding is that the bearing is sealed in the hub, so the whole hub is replaced.

 

[scottdm]

Yes, Moog is excellent.

Thanks. I'll probably go this route with Moog. I can't imagine they'd be any worse than the Motorcraft hubs. My Expy only has 50k miles, so not too impressed at this point with the Motorcraft hubs.

 

[TheDoug]

Thanks. I'll probably go this route with Moog. I can't imagine they'd be any worse than the Motorcraft hubs. My Expy only has 50k miles, so not too impressed at this point with the Motorcraft hubs.

When you get them on and put some miles on them write back and let us know how they are.

 

[scottdm]

Will do. They should arrive this week and I'll get them installed when I have some free time. I'll be interested to get the old hubs off to see how bad the bearings are.

 

[jar0023]

I have a little over 20k on a set of Moog front hub bearings. One of my factory fronts went from nice and quiet to holy crap that's loud seemingly overnight at around 80k. Currently just over 100k on a 2018 FX4. Zero issues since the install. Straight bolt on so easy enough for the at home mechanic. Just don't over torque the small axle nut.

 

[mbtech2003]

Do NOT use Moog they have a lifetime replacement warranty but you will spend a lifetime replacing them. I gave up on any Moog parts 15 years ago. I use WJB or SCHAEFFLER for wheel bearings from Rockauto. I’ve had 0 issues with them.

 

[bryz_expy]

Curious on how you are determining it to be the hub. I am asking because I have asked my dealer 4 times to identify the issue and they keep brushing it off as other items. “No issue found”, “Oh it’s the tires” , I just put brand new Michelins and it’s the same as previous set. “It may be the rotors and runout on them”.

I have read about axle /differential bearings as well. Mine isn’t audible so much, but more grumbling like that resonates up and I can feel it in the accelerator pedal as a vibration especially at hwy speed.

When I told the dealer I can feel the vibration in the accelerator, the quick response was “impossible, it’s a drive by wire system”. So it kind of shows you the level of understanding I’m dealing with.

After explaining I know it’s Drive by wire but there is a harmonic type vibration being felt is when they stated the rotor runout issue. I asked them to put chassis ears on the parts but I feel like since brakes are coming up soon I’ll replace rotors just to rule it out.

 

[Herby]

I find the best replacement Hub Wheel Bearings to purchase are TIMKEN hubs. I replaced my right rear hub at 100k and at 218k, it is still rolling strong. I read somewhere that TIMKENs are used as OEM parts for my 2007 Ford Expedition. Moog parts are made in China and I hear sooooo many complaints regarding their longevity.

 

[WEDGE]

I call bullcrap on the dealer.... i just had my front driver side wheel bearing replaced last month with no wait time. I would definately try a different dealer.

False. These ARE on backorder. The supplier that makes them for Ford is past due, with no E.T.A. in sight.
If your dealer replaced yours recently, that means they had one in stock at the time. We cannot order any more and give an accurate ETA. Yes I work for FORD

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

MOOG is hit or miss these days as you never know what's going to be in the box. At one point I had 3 MOOG wheel hub assemblies - all in identical boxes with identical part numbers - with 3 different assemblies. One was made by MOOG, another by SKF and and another by Timkin.

 

[Soliyou]

Curious on how you are determining it to be the hub. I am asking because I have asked my dealer 4 times to identify the issue and they keep brushing it off as other items. “No issue found”, “Oh it’s the tires” , I just put brand new Michelins and it’s the same as previous set. “It may be the rotors and runout on them”.

I have read about axle /differential bearings as well. Mine isn’t audible so much, but more grumbling like that resonates up and I can feel it in the accelerator pedal as a vibration especially at hwy speed.

When I told the dealer I can feel the vibration in the accelerator, the quick response was “impossible, it’s a drive by wire system”. So it kind of shows you the level of understanding I’m dealing with.

After explaining I know it’s Drive by wire but there is a harmonic type vibration being felt is when they stated the rotor runout issue. I asked them to put chassis ears on the parts but I feel like since brakes are coming up soon I’ll replace rotors just to rule it out.

Does the vibration change in 4A vs 2wd??

 

[scottdm]

Does the vibration change in 4A vs 2wd??

Yeah. You still get the normal drive line noise added to the equation when the front driveline is engaged & spinning in 4A. The bearing hub noise is still present when in 2wd.