Negative Offset Wheels DO Fit Without Modifications

[ChaseM]

In case anyone was wondering, negative offset wheels do fit on these vehicles. I recently installed some 20”x9” wheels with a -24 offset with stock size (275/55/20) mud tires on my 2018 Expedition and they do not rub at all. I tried to find out if they would fit before I purchased them and everything I read said no. So I figured I would put this out on here. Thanks

 

[rob4092xx]

I had to cut off about 2” off both rear axles to get my Dub 22” 8-Ball wheels on.

 

[scottdm]

To each his own... Wheels that stick out are hard on wheel bearings and throw debris at the rocker panels. Cops in PA would also pull a vehicle like this over and give a ticket for lack of fender flares. It also wouldn't pass annual state inspection.

 

[Adieu]

Is there an actual point to fender flares except to avoid kicking mud up at your doors?

 

[scottdm]

Is there an actual point to fender flares except to avoid kicking mud up at your doors?

Another purpose is pedestrian safety to avoid the tires from dragging a person under the vehicle in a situation that would have otherwise been a glancing blow. That's why it's a legal issue in PA to have tires that stick out past the body of the vehicle.

 

[Deadman]

It looks like the fronts stick way out, but the rears don't.... Maybe its just that one pic...

 

[GAINMOB]

It looks like the fronts stick way out, but the rears don't.... Maybe its just that one pic...

its not due to his setup...mine looks the same way and i have 26s with + offset...its the design of the truck

 

[GAINMOB]

and he only has the wheels on the front...he didnt change the rears yet but its still the same as i see the same on my truck

 

[sjwhiteley]

It looks like the fronts stick way out, but the rears don't.... Maybe its just that one pic...

It looks like the first two pic have the rear OEM wheels, and the last has the new ones on the rear.

 

[Broncoholic]

FWIW, I had 20x9 with 0 offset on my 2003 (I know, not same Gen, but this was my experience) with 275/60R20 (1" taller than stock tire). The rears would rub the inside of the fender lip when loaded down and going down a bumpy road, especially noticeable on road trips with luggage and 5 people, and going through a windy bouncy city interstate. The fronts stuck out further and would hit the fender lip hard, my wife hit a large speed bump too fast and bashed/bent one fender. I ended up installing a lift to mitigate the issue.

You may be OK with stock size tires, but it may get sketchy if you're loaded down and/or hitting bumps with any speed.

 

[Grey ghost]

Not a fan of the wheels being stuck out so far and flares would help.
So glad to not live in a state like Pennsylvania,. Apparently the legislature is lacking the ability to do meaningful things and the police haven't the ability to deal with actual crime. It seems New York has taken over your state.

 

[Johnathan M]

its not due to his setup...mine looks the same way and i have 26s with + offset...its the design of the truck

My 2013 looked like that with stock wheels. The rears set in farther. I’m not sure that it’s actually a narrower wheelbase in the rear (even though it looks like it) but rather the rear fenders hang out over the wheels farther.

I didn’t feel like spending money on new wheels with a different offset, but I wanted my wheels to fill out the wheel wells fully. So what I did was get 20mm bolt on spacers for the front, and 30mm bolt on spacers for the rear and kept my stock wheels. It looks great without sticking out to far. No rubbing or issues even with a load. I do have air suspension so it keeps things leveled even with a load. I’ll see if I can figure out how to include a picture here. Never done that before.

 

[GAINMOB]

wheel base isnt narrow...its the design of the truck in the front as it goes in to be "aerodynamic"

 

[ChaseM]

Just to update- the first two pics I posted had the stock rims on the rear. This pic shows how far the rears stick out. I pulled a 6,000 lb trailer with it the other day with no equalizer hitch and even though the back end was squatted, it never rubbed. I love the way it looks, but it definitely throws mud on the door handles when you take it off road. Can’t have your cake and eat it too

 

[ChaseM]

 

[Aspen03]

Looks good, reminds me of my old regal that I had 9" wide FR500s on for summer. Gave it a mean stance and hooked so hard it would snap your neck.

I had to throw the old 80s mud flaps on to keep rubber off the track and road debris flying down the side of the car. Worked out well. They were a 24 offset as well.

 

[sjwhiteley]

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No kidding on the mud !

For some reason, it looks like it is calling out for some fender flares - or, specifically, the line above the wheel arches makes it look like some fender flares are missing. Maybe the combination of wheels, color and mud.

 

[GAINMOB]

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what size rims?

 

[ChaseM]

20”x9”