OEM LED Headlamps or LED upgrade on projectors?

[5280tunage]

First vehicle I've ever had with them, that's mind numbing. You could easily create a headlamp assembly with removable LED bulbs that still even has integrated heatsinks etc. thank god I have a crazy long bumper to bumper warranty, one LED assembly goes out and I've practically paid for it. But thanks for the insight.

 

[peter19expi]

Just replaced the high beam, low beam, and fogs with 6k (white) LEDs. WOW what a difference. Here's the links to what I purchased if anyone's interested, all from SEALIGHT. Cost me about $75 total (for all three) with some sales and such Amazon had. Install was EXTREMELY easy. Remove 2 screws from wheel liner under the wheel well/fender, peel back the liner slightly, reach in and pull rubber seal(s) off the rear, remove light(s), unplug, reverse the order and done. For the fogs, just poke your head underneath the front end (crawler helps) and unplug, remove light, and replace with new.

Low Beams: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079KB7QX3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

High Beams: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079KB8J98/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fog Lights: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VZNXNFV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Jeff R]

Resurrecting an old thread. I got a product warning message from Amazon concerning the Sealight bulbs I installed. The message pointed to a NTSHA notice stating that the bulbs may be too bright: (summary - see link below for full text)

June 17, 2021 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 21E053000
Headlight Bulb May Be Too Bright/FMVSS 108
Excessive glare or brightness can reduce the vision of oncoming drivers, increasing the risk of a crash.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 21E053000
Manufacturer Shenzen YouCheng Dianzishangwu Youxiangg
Components EXTERIOR LIGHTING
Summary
Shenzen YouCheng Dianzishangwu Youxiangg (Sealight) is recalling certain Sealight S1H11 LED headlight bulbs with part number AHDS1H11-E. These bulbs can create excessive glare or brightness to oncoming traffic. As such, these bulbs fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=21E053000

I've decided to keep them in place.

 

[sjwhiteley]

Resurrecting an old thread. I got a product warning message from Amazon concerning the Sealight bulbs I installed. The message pointed to a NTSHA notice stating that the bulbs may be too bright: (summary - see link below for full text)

June 17, 2021 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 21E053000
Headlight Bulb May Be Too Bright/FMVSS 108
Excessive glare or brightness can reduce the vision of oncoming drivers, increasing the risk of a crash.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 21E053000
Manufacturer Shenzen YouCheng Dianzishangwu Youxiangg
Components EXTERIOR LIGHTING
Summary
Shenzen YouCheng Dianzishangwu Youxiangg (Sealight) is recalling certain Sealight S1H11 LED headlight bulbs with part number AHDS1H11-E. These bulbs can create excessive glare or brightness to oncoming traffic. As such, these bulbs fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=21E053000

I've decided to keep them in place.

This is an interesting situation.

First of all, so what? If you fit them, then what is the violation? Specifically, who cares about federal manufacturer requirements?

however, if they create excessive glare, it would be a state or local traffic law that you would be in violation of. Specifically, ‘they’ would need to write a ticket with a specific traffic code your are violating.

Common sense should be paramount. Typically, most bulbs of a reasonable design in the reflector/projector of this vehicle do not blind oncoming traffic (fitted correctly). They have a solid cutoff. Most of these LEDs are cheap, so there could be a bad design or figment which causes the light pattern to fails to match the cutoff of the original halogen.

as a final note, fitting these kind of LEDs with a lift or leveling kit may cause issues. I think that would be the case with any bulb, including standard halogen, but the LEDs may be more obvious.

 

[lv2drive]

I've decided to keep them in place.

so basically you’re “that guy” who has bulbs installed that have such prominently excessive glare that the NTSHA produced a notification to be sent to all those who purchased them - yet you decided to “keep them in place.” basically a huge middle finger to anyone driver who is coming the other way, who cares if i blind you with my glare - i can see great!

this is why we can’t have nice things. maybe you’ll care one day when one of those opposing drivers can’t see the deer in front of them and catapaults it onto your windshield. FFS get some bulbs that are designed correctly - and safely - for your vehicle. don’t put your ability to see above the ability for opposing drivers to see. it’s calls decency.

pretty please and thanks.

 

[Jeff R]

pretty please and thanks.

lv2drive -

Thank you for your response. Very articulate and convincing. As per the recall notice, the mfg is required to replace these bulbs with suitable in spec version.

I have written the company to request the replacements and will install upon receipt.

Cheers!

 

[lv2drive]

lv2drive -

Thank you for your response. Very articulate and convincing. As per the recall notice, the mfg is required to replace these bulbs with suitable in spec version.

I have written the company to request the replacements and will install upon receipt.

Cheers!

and in the meantime you’ll just wait for the manufacturer’s replacements instead of taking $40 & 15 minutes to replace the unsafe ones, from any one of the major manufacturers that don’t have these design issues, available readily at any store in america.... not minding that until they arrive you’re perfectly fine with driving around with lights that blind other drivers.

this is my point exactly. or maybe you could do the right thing while you await a reply from the company in china. heck you could even get your money back too if that’s what you are worried about on your 60k vehicle.

would you take the same approach of “leaving them installed” while you await the chinese manufacturer’s replacement if it were something recalled like, let’s say, tires... that could affect YOUR safety also?

probably not .

sorry if i seem snarky about this, but as a primarily night driver, the flooding of the market with poorly designed LED bulbs installed by amazon purchasers is one of the most unsafe things i encounter as a driver - it’s not the cutoff line that’s the issue, it’s the glare - which means excess reflection off the road from light focused on the perimeter of the beam pattern. it’s a very real problem & is not safe for anyone in the opposite direction. i’ve actually almost hit deer multiple occasions from this type of scenario of not being able to see from some **** LED bulbs. so please forgive the “articulate” response.