Oil catch can

[Muddy Bean]

So at the risk of opening a nasty stinky can of worms, I know Jacob seems to have really great success with his one sided can setup. I’ve been digging through online forum posts and videos for months now trying to determine definitively whether a dual can or single can setup is necessary. I’m with Jacob in that if the single can is all that’s needed, it’s a waste of $$ to spend twice the money for a dual setup. But I can’t find any solid data in my feeble searching that can swing the scale either way for me...


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[J Ski]

So at the risk of opening a nasty stinky can of worms, I know Jacob seems to have really great success with his one sided can setup. I’ve been digging through online forum posts and videos for months now trying to determine definitively whether a dual can or single can setup is necessary. I’m with Jacob in that if the single can is all that’s needed, it’s a waste of $$ to spend twice the money for a dual setup. But I can’t find any solid data in my feeble searching that can swing the scale either way for me...


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A lot of the guys over at f150 swear by the passenger side can. I went with the passenger side only because out of the three MAP sensors, that manifold one was the filthiest. No buildup on the IAT MAP sensor or the one on the throttle body so that was my proof I needed that only one side was needed. Plus the guys at JLT said that some other ford models benefit from dual cans while others are not needed. Honestly, installing one on driver side and seeing oil collected would be the best proof. Not sure if anyone here has done a driver side can yet for an ecoboost Ex

 

[old codger]

Looking at this topic on catch cans it seems as though only one on the passenger side is needed and the JLT brand would do the trick. Does this come with the bracket and 17limitedexpy pic shows the system mounted. Also, will the hoses reach on the above install.

 

[old codger]

Sorry, should have included this question on previous post. The link to stage 3 shows the catch can setup for an F-150, I presume it is the same part number or am I wrong? Thanks!

 

[J Ski]

Sorry, should have included this question on previous post. The link to stage 3 shows the catch can setup for an F-150, I presume it is the same part number or am I wrong? Thanks!

Same pet number. Box I got mine in days it’s for f150 3.5L. Here’s how I set mine up. It comes preconnected and the hose fitting was so tight I wasn’t going to risk breaking anything to angle the hose on the right side of the can back to fit better so I just moved the whole assembly

 

[Boostedbus]

Well it finally came today. Looks to be made well and even came with a thread tap for fittings... that was a nice surprise

 

[Boostedbus]

One thing I was wrong about was I thought the can unscrewed but it doesn’t. The guy at RXP did tell me it has stainless steel media inside. Probably a shaving mesh of some sort . I can’t hear any rattle when I shake it. So this means I do have to mount it where I can drain it or unhook the whole can assembly and bench drain it

 

[J Ski]

One thing I was wrong about was I thought the can unscrewed but it doesn’t. The guy at RXP did tell me it has stainless steel media inside. Probably a shaving mesh of some sort . I can’t hear any rattle when I shake it. So this means I do have to mount it where I can drain it or unhook the whole can assembly and bench drain it

Makuloco did a video on the UPR I think and he had to mount it to the front of the radiator. Looked like a pain with all the modifications he had to do and the amount of crap he had to take off to get it installed like body panels, supports, etc. good luck man!

 

[Boostedbus]

Makuloco did a video on the UPR I think and he had to mount it to the front of the radiator. Looked like a pain with all the modifications he had to do and the amount of crap he had to take off to get it installed like body panels, supports, etc. good luck man!

Yeah I’m sure it’s may take a little time. When the guy at RXP offered a free install he said they would need 2hrs. I’ll be fine, I was talking with my good friend about the kit and he said he wanted to help with the installs because he hasn’t done one yet. He and I use to both work together as Ford technicians at a Ford dealer back in the 80’s. Since then I’ve put down the wrenches for a nail gun and went back to work for my family’s construction company which my brother and l now own together. So my old wrench buddy (who’s still turning them) will drink some beers and get them done. We are going to install the kit on my cousins F150 at the same time also. I might have to slow Johnny down as he is an amazing flat rate mechanic.

 

[bobmbx]

One thing I was wrong about was I thought the can unscrewed but it doesn’t. The guy at RXP did tell me it has stainless steel media inside. Probably a shaving mesh of some sort . I can’t hear any rattle when I shake it. So this means I do have to mount it where I can drain it or unhook the whole can assembly and bench drain it

Don't limit yourself to the supplied drain hose length. Hose is cheap. All you need is access to the drain pet **** and run the hose to a convenient bottom location. Although, the longer the drain hose, the longer it will drip after draining. You could cap the end of the drain hose to stop the dripping.

 

[Boostedbus]

Don't limit yourself to the supplied drain hose length. Hose is cheap. All you need is access to the drain pet **** and run the hose to a convenient bottom location. Although, the longer the drain hose, the longer it will drip after draining. You could cap the end of the drain hose to stop the dripping.

Yeah right, it actually didn’t come with the clear drain tubing like I thought it would but that’s no big deal .I’ve got a bunch of it in my tool box if I go that route. I would like to mount it on the core support if I can make it work with sufficient space. I’ll post pics whenever we get started.

 

[Muddy Bean]

[emoji1432] I was wondering about this exact thing. Thanks for mentioning this...I was wondering if it were possible to make draining easier.


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[John D]

What's the opinion on adding one of these catch cans if the truck already has 45k on it?

Preventing any more crap is better than nothing or the stuff is caked on already and it wont make a difference now?

 

[07xln]

Never to late. At 45K miles you're fine. If you plan to keep the truck then do it

 

[bobmbx]

What's the opinion on adding one of these catch cans if the truck already has 45k on it?

Preventing any more crap is better than nothing or the stuff is caked on already and it wont make a difference now?

I would suggest that as the engine wears, the blowby will increase. Full disclosure: I'm convinced that the EB DI engines produce blowby and that can result in coking on the valve stems. I'm not convinced it causes an engine issue, either by reduced performance or damage. The DI engines have been around long enough to produce an adequate sample size and I don't see an abnormal failure rate caused by the blowby.

 

[07xln]

I would suggest that as the engine wears, the blowby will increase. Full disclosure: I'm convinced that the EB DI engines produce blowby and that can result in coking on the valve stems. I'm not convinced it causes an engine issue, either by reduced performance or damage. The DI engines have been around long enough to produce an adequate sample size and I don't see an abnormal failure rate caused by the blowby.

I agree

Every engine produces blow by though. No engine has perfect ring seal. The issue is the type of injection. With DI there is no fuel to clean the valves so the valves get dirtier quicker. I think it will cause reduced engine performance in the long term as the coking or buildup reduces air flow past the valve. Point is an engine with 100k miles will perform worse than an identical engine with say 1k miles on it. Big reason for that is all the buildup inside the motor

But yeah I don't think the failure rate is abnormal at all. The thing is there isn't a failure rate for these motors to even reference. That's a good thing. A catch can is a good idea plain and simple. It will prolong the inevitable and keep everything running better for longer

 

[J Ski]

I’d get it and clean ur MAP sensors during the install too

 

[Muddy Bean]

Yeah every time I clean mine they are gross.


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[J Ski]

Yeah every time I clean mine they are gross.


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Do u have a catch can?

 

[CrAzYJoe85]

JLT won' void your warranty but the RX will as you have to put holes in your intake