popping sound

[panda24619]

when i turn my key to on my speakers make a POP. same when i turn the key to off. i took out all the speakers and rewired them today to make sure nothing was grounding out and its all fine. it did this with the JVC deck and now the stock deck. also when the key is out if i press any button on the head unit the speakers make a pop again. any idea what is causing this?

 

[panda24619]

okay something is turning the radio on. i dont have anything after market on now i dont get it. also at half power the radio turns down and then back up with no bass. any clues?

 

[workman8505]

are you by chance using the stock amp they tend to have problems atleast in my experience they do. sounds like maybe the stock amp is turning on and off? theats part of why i took mine out is it wasn't getting full range to my door speakers only highs.

 

[panda24619]

no amp. at least i cant find one. its just the "premium" audio. it does seem to be an amp turning on and off. my sub would do it when my old amp wasnt hooked up right.

okay now the hunt. where would the amp be since i cant find one.

 

[workman8505]

if its the premium audio then yea it has the stock amp you just cant see it lol its hard to get to here cheek out my post on the radio relocation i went into detail about where the wires were and how to bypass it with out ripping out tye dash for silverbackexpo the wiring is on the 2nd page its a royal pain to get to if you take out your AC controls you can see the top of it
http://www.expeditionforum.com/showthread.php?t=15398
im not saying you have to bypass it but atleast find a way to test it there should be a blue wire on your aftermarket harness that is the turn on wire for it disconnect it ans see if it still does it but you will have no sound once its disconnected cause the amp wont power on lol... its a start i guess maybe someone else will know a way to test it.

 

[mtondreo]

definitely sounds like the stock amp popping. When I installed my aftermarket deck in the 06, I put a resistor on the amp turn on (blue wire). I actualy was supposed to use two - but one made it quieter. I just never got around to pulling the deck again and putting another one in. I can not remember the resistance I used though. Hope it helps, Mike

 

[panda24619]

this is with my stock deck! i took the jvc out cause it was doing it with that. i thought it would fix the problem. so i guess i have to rip apart the dash to get to it. GREAT! ill do it this week when i remove all my light switches and wires.

 

[workman8505]

cheek out my last post on radio relocation it can be done with out take dash out just follow where i tracked down all the wires lol PITA but it helped silverback and i was already there lol.just take lose the battery cause the power to the amp stays live. you can do away with the green plug on the aftermarket harness when you do it or just bypass it in the harness that goes to the amp and leave the plug for easy removal like i did. but its up to you if you want to replace it that is a option as well just be ready to take the whole dash out and i mean the whole thing unless you are cutting it up as i was. if you do just cut the harness takes about 30 mins to an hr i would use soider and heat shrink tubing if you have it or at least crimp terminals dont like em but they work really dont like just electrical tape and twisting them but it works to.
there goes my electrical side coming out lol. theres the right way and theres the ok way and the just wrong way lol...... any way best of luck to you man hope it works out for ya. if you take out the AC controls you might be able to cut the wiring harness down close to the amp and have more wire to work with.

 

[panda24619]

i use crimp terminals. but i remove the crappy red/blue cover so i can really crimp the wires and i use heat shrink. works great. use it on all things. speakers and lights. no problems. ill see what i can do. as for the stock amp when i look at it should i just see if all the wires are connected? im gonna take out the stock deck again, PITA! so its just under the ac controls? this is really bugging me. dont wanna take it in just to sell it in a few weeks.

 

[workman8505]

all you can see from the top is the top lol the plugs are on the bottom and really really really hard to get to man. maybe able to get at where the vents are under the dash to wiggle on the plugs they are on the bottom there is one bolt on the top and two on the bottom and with out cutting shit out like i did idk if it is posible to get out with out the whole dash.
if you find a way let me know lol

also take out your front center console pice where the cup holders are and cheeck that big white plug with the bolt through it i have heard of problems with it coming lose but mostly causes speakers to come and go just try and snug the bolt up on tha one

 

[workman8505]

vents are under the dash idk how better to discribe this its in the center where the center console meets the dash you have to lay in the floor board and look up at it should be held on with a push clip on either side then it just twisted a little bit out of the way but just not enough for me to get on my stock amp. lol but i think i could see the plugs at that point.

 

[panda24619]

all right ill do that. i have to take out the light switches anyways and i have to remove that whole thing. ill see what i can do. wonder if i messed with something with my bus bar that i have under there. ill have to do this tomorrow. even though its raining i dont care. haha i need this to be fixed before i sell her.

 

[workman8505]

well idk if bypassing will work with the stock radio guess i should have said that before sorry did know you were looking to sell it my bad. ummmmmm s***
jsut tell em its always done that crap man i am at a lose now by the way here is a pic of it from the top http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/workman8505/Snapbucket/CC23A09D-orig.jpg
i will see what i can turn up about the stock radio working with out the amp if i had one i would test but mine was gone when i got it you could just strip a little of one of the sets of wires just after the radio and take some wire and hook a speaker up and see if it has sound.

 

[panda24619]

maybe i should just sell it with the jvc deck in it. it was cheap anyways. and it worked better with it, but it still popped. well... i think im gonna... idk. ill have to look at it and see what i can do. also no sound in the rear left. i think it is the amp. ill just tell the owners that it always did that and ford said it was the factory amp going out and they wanted way too much to fix and i never got around to putting in a 4 channel. haha ill just make sure the new buyer doesnt come on this site. haha

but anyways thanks for your help. ill have to look at all of this and see what i can do and just sell it with the jvc deck in it.

 

[workman8505]

sorry its been so much trouble by the way why yo selling it man.

 

[panda24619]

sorry its been so much trouble by the way why yo selling it man.

tired of throwing money at it. in last 6 months it has cost about $2-3k to keep on the road. blown plug, blown coil, new tires, little bit of this little bit of that starts to add up quick. and the fact that San Diego has the highest gas prices in all of the US. 4.39 yesterday. i need something more economical, but still big enough for me. so im thinking a small truck, ranger, tacoma, frontier. that sort of thing. but in the future i will be getting another expedition. i love this thing.

 

[workman8505]

frontiers are nice i had a buddie with one and it did alright off road nothing like a expy but held it own and it drove great on the road yea up to 3.70 here ive been b***ing about it for a while now lol but its the price we pay for comfort. i'm going to knock on wood here but i'm glad i havent had major problems but the small things add up too

 

[panda24619]

yeah its funny. hawaii is cheaper than average. its like $3.39? something like that. it has to be shipped in. explain that? wtf?! if i were to get a frontier i would do the titan swap. all the front end suspension components. its a cheap mid travel kit. about 11" of travel. but my dad is looking for a new truck for him and i might get his tundra. 4 door 2004 DARK green tundra. its nice, but its huge and i dont want a 4 door, but what ever. cant complain if he just gives it to me. i would change his radio out though. i hate that pos sony deck.

so i was talking with my friend and he said that if i were to sell my truck i should just put in my jvc and bypass the amp. now to do that do i cut the wires off the amp and reconnect them to the decks out put wires for the speakers? the grey, purple, green, white.

 

[masterhacker]

Get a early 90's tacoms, or a early 90's ranger, Ive mercilessly beaten both and never broke a damn thing doing it

 

[workman8505]

"so i was talking with my friend and he said that if i were to sell my truck i should just put in my jvc and bypass the amp. now to do that do i cut the wires off the amp and reconnect them to the decks out put wires for the speakers? the grey, purple, green, white."
yea you can do it that way but it will make it all kinds of a PITA for the next person to put a radio in i would keep the small black plug on the factory harness and the small green one for easy rewire of new radio and do it by cutting both sides of the harness ive got broken down in my post cause it makes it so much easier when you have a nice plug and play labeled wires and all that jazz. but really the end point is the same it just depends on how easy it is for the next person that gets it lol. its about the same amount of work no matter which way you do it the only way it would be more work is to run all new wire to the speakers them selves.