RIP: 2019 expedition finally died today in the middle of the road - UPDATE blown engine @ 29k miles

[tacoduck]

Listen, crap happens with any vehicle. That said, the ford lead times to fix an issue are unacceptable. A fusion loaner for 2 months for my family of 6 simply wouldn’t work. If I pay $75k or 80k for a vehicle I expect a top shelf dealer experience.
I will also say that these issues are not nearly as pronounced in the gen 3 expos. You would think ford would have all the kinks worked out on an engine that’s been around for 10+ years.

 

[kjf1]

I would bet this happen when your cam phasers were replaced.
Those rockers don't fail easily.

 

[georgeraft]

Sorry to hear about your engine, can’t believe that happened with such low mileage. My 2010 Expedition just hit 34,000 miles, still no major issues, Ford gave me my 3rd 5 yr extended warranty with a $100 deductible. The tech at Ford told me the new expeditions are like everything else is made like crap.

 

[Gregg Eshelman]

If you're in Michigan, call Steve Lehto. Lemon law and other automotive cases are his specialty. He also posts videos on YouTube.

 

[Soliyou]

The service manager showed me this today, destroyed rockers etc., will need a new engine

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Wait whaaat??!!

I just remembered that these Ecoboost engines don't have hydraulic lifters... These followers may not be from your engine.... Please correct me if I am wrong!

 

[armoredsaint]

I have no idea?

 

[Soliyou]

I have no idea?

I was wrong. Upon more research, these Gen2 ecoboost 3.5 have this type of roller followers. The previous generation had the buckets.

 

[m3olsen]

I was wrong. Upon more research, these Gen2 ecoboost 3.5 have this type of roller followers. The previous generation had the buckets.

@Soliyou , correct. RFF (roller finger followers) were part of the MY 2018 refresh of the 3.5 EB engine. Cleveland Engine Plant 1, if anyone is interesting in knowing where they come from.

 

[Boli Muentes]

It’s interesting how some vehicles are cursed and others are daisies. I have a friend who has a ‘20 Max limited, HD towing, 20’s etc. He changes the oil with synthetic every 5,000 miles, has a 5 star Tuner, Whipple Mega Cooler, S&B intake, takes it to the track and is in the 13s in the quarter.

It just turned 40,000 miles and has been bulletproof.

Kind of interesting to see a perfect “on the other hand” comparison.

 

[tacoduck]

It’s interesting how some vehicles are cursed and others are daisies. I have a friend who has a ‘20 Max limited, HD towing, 20’s etc. He changes the oil with synthetic every 5,000 miles, has a 5 star Tuner, Whipple Mega Cooler, S&B intake, takes it to the track and is in the 13s in the quarter.

It just turned 40,000 miles and has been bulletproof.

Kind of interesting to see a perfect “on the other hand” comparison.

40k miles is not the definition of bulletproof. Need to stretch that to 150k miles.

 

[dlcorbett]

Seeing as many people on here can barely make It to 40k without major issues, bulletproof maybe the best characteristic to describe how dependable his truck has been in the short term.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

40k miles is not the definition of bulletproof. Need to stretch that to 150k miles.

Years ago that number was 300k. In my mind it's 200k+. Now most Expedition owners consider it 150k as you said. The accepted durability bar keeps getting lowered as the price keeps getting higher. :/

 

[JExpedition07]

I would not say that expectation is correct out of new buyers globally. Many plan to and should get long vehicle life with good maintenance, freak accidents happen as do mistakes though. I hope to get 200-250k out of my 2023 F-150 5.0L V8. Can’t speak on the EcoBoost as I’m not as well educated on it like others here are. Coming from a 5.4L 3V Expedition and comparing to the 5.0L 4V engine in the F-150 it would appear from an engineering standpoint that the 5.0 is built much beefier than the 5.4 was. The 3rd & 4th gen 5.0 have the forged steel crankshaft and sinter forged connecting rods out of the OG 2012 Boss 302 Road-Runner motor stock off the showroom floor since 2018. All that good stuff was just cast and powdered metal on the 5.4 Triton.

 

[GlennSullivan]

Unfortunately, the 5.0 V8 is not available in the Expedition or I would have one in mine.