So...I went to DC for a meeting the other day....

[MidwestBoater]

Guess he won't be an ignorant ass and take a handicap spot again. Too bad it had to come to that for him to learn.

So you think someone should be shot and possibly killed for using a handicapped spot?

 

[HawkX66]

So you think someone should be shot and possibly killed for using a handicapped spot?

Did I say that or did I say "Too bad it had to come to that for him to learn"?

 

[MidwestBoater]

Did I say that or did I say "Too bad it had to come to that for him to learn"?

This would certainly lead a person to believe that you approved of what happened "Guess he won't be an ignorant ass and take a handicap spot again."

 

[JExpedition07]

This would certainly lead a person to believe that you approved of what happened "Guess he won't be an ignorant ass and take a handicap spot again."

Well now that he’s partially paralyzed he will be taking the handicap spot quite a bit.

 

[HawkX66]

This would certainly lead a person to believe that you approved of what happened "Guess he won't be an ignorant ass and take a handicap spot again."

Just a little chlorine in the gene pool. Can't say that I had an emotional response one way or the other.

 

[TobyU]

This would certainly lead a person to believe that you approved of what happened "Guess he won't be an ignorant ass and take a handicap spot again."

Tone and inflection and all that stuff gets lost in typed or printed text often. So I only call people out on when they state something as fact that I know not to be fact all the time. I often get people nitpicking and what you would call putting words into my mouth or ideas into my head or saying what I am or am not because of opinions I stated in writing. People tend to grab a part of an opinion and Go With It full tilt that since you had this opinion you therefore must believe the entire theory of whatever.
Oh well..

 

[MidwestBoater]

Tone and inflection and all that stuff gets lost in typed or printed text often. So I only call people out on when they state something as fact that I know not to be fact all the time. I often get people nitpicking and what you would call putting words into my mouth or ideas into my head or saying what I am or am not because of opinions I stated in writing. People tend to grab a part of an opinion and Go With It full tilt that since you had this opinion you therefore must believe the entire theory of whatever.
Oh well..

This entire situation is why I rarely post on forums anymore.. I posted a link to a story that went along with the topic of the thread, got a smart ass reply, and when I said something about it, this is what happens. I'll just go back to coming here occasionally for information and leave it at that. I'll see myself out now.

later

 

[HawkX66]

This entire situation is why I rarely post on forums anymore.. I posted a link to a story that went along with the topic of the thread, got a smart ass reply, and when I said something about it, this is what happens. I'll just go back to coming here occasionally for information and leave it at that. I'll see myself out now.

later

Ah, so you're one of those guys that only like people to comment when you agree with them. Gotcha... Bye Felicia.

 

[MidwestBoater]

Ah, so you're one of those guys that only like people to comment when you agree with them. Gotcha... Bye Felicia.

I'll let you have the last word if you really need it that much to help your ego, tough guy.

To the admins, please delete my account.

 

[HawkX66]

I'll let you have the last word if you really need it that much to help your ego, tough guy.

To the admins, please delete my account.

Hey! I thought you were leaving?

 

[1955moose]

Hoo boy! Its sad what happened to that driver. The sad part is he was shot by a possible handicapped person. I myself have a blue California handicapped placard that I use daily. Mid Western boater, the guys/girls here get a bit twisted sometimes, I've had it happen to me. It's like being at an online Hells Angels meeting, with all A, and very few B personalities. I don't think the guys meant anything personal by their comments. Like water off a duck's back, let it go, take a few days off. Leaving the forum over one topic is not worth it. Moose.

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[TobyU]

This entire situation is why I rarely post on forums anymore.. I posted a link to a story that went along with the topic of the thread, got a smart ass reply, and when I said something about it, this is what happens. I'll just go back to coming here occasionally for information and leave it at that. I'll see myself out now.

later

Nah, don't do that. Be like me and embrace it!I am starting to think I thrive on confrontation. That's what gets me going on Facebook. I've found I enjoy it! Funny and odd but true.
I love it when people tel me my OPINION is wrong!!!
I then have to point out that an opinion really can't be wrong...mostly..then they want to pick at that.
See if I like red cars and not blue cars..most will let that go...SOME WONT. (See don't you know that it is factually proven that red cars are in more accidents,,,blah blah blah and get pulled over more and blah blah..so you are stupid to want a red car .....or "you are just ignorant to the facts"....or "when you become educated to the fact...")
Absolutely hilarious. The self righteous, self appointed, social justice warriors and "wrong righters" we have in this country.

I get my jollies from telling people how screwed up the world..mostly the people in it are and telling everyone to eff off. Most of my posts start with "so and so can piss off" or go to hell.

But I enjoy it! Embrace it man...Embrace it!

F' um all!!!

 

[Eagle 71]

This entire situation is why I rarely post on forums anymore..

Midwest,

Moose had some great advice for you in his previous post. If you still have a problem with the poster(s), then PM that person and try to work it out. That usually works.

My Dad gave me lots of good advice. I share two points of his advice with you. They have nothing to do with others on this forum, just some good lessons from a guy that made salt shakers automatically come to attention in his presence:

1. “Don’t let an a-hole rent space in your brain.”

2. “Even a monastery will have a-holes residing in it.”

This was from a man whose ship was blown out from under him at Guadalcanal; he survived that to have his second ship kamikazed at Leyte Gulf.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

A few days ago we had an amazon delivery driver get shot in a Target parking lot for using a handicapped spot. He's paralyzed now.

https://fox2now.com/2019/03/06/65-year-old-charged-in-st-charles-target-parking-lot-shooting/

Both of their lives (and the lives of their families) are changed forever.. over a damn parking spot.

I'm all for a little vigilante vandalism, but shooting someone over this is way, way over the top.

I love it when people tel me my OPINION is wrong!!!
I then have to point out that an opinion really can't be wrong...mostly..then they want to pick at that.

True, but in the words of Douglas Adams: "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."

 

[Plati]

In the words of the infamous Rodney King
"Can't we all just get along?"


of course , the answer is NO … worth a try though

 

[1955moose]

I've been told I'm too nice a guy which explains why I'm not rich in my waning years. But that's ok, cause I can't and won't change who I am. If I was an A hole, I wouldn't be here on this forum helping all you guys and girls. Theirs not a week that goes by, that one or more of us gets into a heated debate. You guys remember the one over the oil life debate a few months back? It went back and forth and sideways for over 70 posts. Point is, it's going to happen again, and like any confrontation in your life, it's better to just walk away. Or in this case, just stay off the forum for a few days to a week. I've done just that more than once. Pushing 5 years this November, and I'm still here.

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[TobyU]

I'm all for a little vigilante vandalism, but shooting someone over this is way, way over the top.



True, but in the words of Douglas Adams: "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."

Yes, but I just don't think an opinion needs to be supported by anything because it's an opinion. Maybe I should just call the preference. As in my original analogy. If you like red cars then you don't need any details, facts, logic, or even reasons. Your preference for opinion doesn't need to be supported by anything because it's solely your own personal view.
When people start acting on their opinions and preferences is where we get into inappropriate behavior. But having a thought in your mind despite what some people want to tell us today...is never really wrong but that's in my opinion.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

Yes, but I just don't think an opinion needs to be supported by anything because it's an opinion. Maybe I should just call the preference. As in my original analogy. If you like red cars then you don't need any details, facts, logic, or even reasons. Your preference for opinion doesn't need to be supported by anything because it's solely your own personal view.
When people start acting on their opinions and preferences is where we get into inappropriate behavior. But having a thought in your mind despite what some people want to tell us today...is never really wrong but that's in my opinion.

There's a clear difference between an opinion that simply pertains to preference and one that pertains to a debatable topic. Again, I agree that an opinion can't be wrong per say since it is simply an opinion, but one opinion can certainly be more valuable than another. One very basic example ... I take my truck to the shop and after the experienced mechanic takes a test drive and spends a few minutes with my truck on the lift tells me he thinks I need a wheel bearing. I then head over to my buddy's house - a guy that can't even change his own oil - and he's standing in the driveway as a I pull up. He hears the noise coming from my truck and says he thinks I need a tie rod. Both are opinions and without further inspection, we can't say either is wrong. Nonetheless, one opinion is clearly more valuable than the other because it is better supported by logic and reason.

 

[TobyU]

There's a clear difference between an opinion that simply pertains to preference and one that pertains to a debatable topic. Again, I agree that an opinion can't be wrong per say since it is simply an opinion, but one opinion can certainly be more valuable than another. One very basic example ... I take my truck to the shop and after the experienced mechanic takes a test drive and spends a few minutes with my truck on the lift tells me he thinks I need a wheel bearing. I then head over to my buddy's house - a guy that can't even change his own oil - and he's standing in the driveway as a I pull up. He hears the noise coming from my truck and says he thinks I need a tie rod. Both are opinions and without further inspection, we can't say either is wrong. Nonetheless, one opinion is clearly more valuable than the other because it is better supported by logic and reason.

True and even though I disagree on principle with the people that say opinions can be wrong. It's obvious that an opinion can be wrong if somebody just think something in their own head but it clearly can be proven wrong with facts. However, this is why I consider opinions and preferences to be the same thing. Maybe the words are often used interchangeably and maybe they shouldn't be.
The problem comes with things like you mentioned that are debatable. If I say it's my opinion that a man or even any man for that matter is stronger than a gorilla that would probably be a wrong opinion. Because I think we could prove over and over that a gorilla is about 8 times stronger than a man.
Someone could argue and argue that they think someone stronger than a gorilla. This topic just went around last week about Mike Tyson punching a gorilla out.
We know for a fact that a large gorilla is stronger than Mike Tyson. But it could be someone's opinion that Mike Tyson could knock the gorilla out and win in a fight and it might be possible.
So is this debatable or not? I say too many variables. Do we have to test it? How many times do we have to test it to see whether it's fact or not fact. This becomes MythBusters with plausible or confirmed.
But there is no debate and no denying if someone says they prefer or it's their preference. A preference does not have to be true it doesn't even have to be logical. When someone says they prefer steak over fish. They could say that salmon tastes terrible. Other would say it tastes great and even if 999 people out a thousand said something was good one person could still say they prefer something else and their preference is to never eat the stuff because it tastes terrible. So they could say in their opinion salmon tastes terrible. Does salmon taste terrible? There we go.
When you get to things that are more important on like societal issues and stuff and somebody says something bad about people or a group of people that's when the horns all come out.
It always seems though that people that are firmly on each side have their own sets of facts that they fully believe and want you to accept.
Lots of other examples but this post is getting long enough but I would just say that to me opinion and preference are about the same thing and whether right or wrong someone is entitled to both their preference and opinion no matter how weird, odd, or wrong other people see it. They are not entitled to act in inappropriate ways on these opinions.

 

[bobmbx]

C'mon, guys.