Tip and Slide Only Works with LATCH

[aggiegrad05]

The Expis are starting to show up on dealer lots here in the Dallas area so I went to play with one today. I took my son’s booster seat to see just how well the Tip and Slide seating system works in allowing access to the third row. I was disappointed to learn that it doesn’t. If you are only using the LATCH system, it would work as promised, tipping and sliding forward allowing third-row access. But if you have the seat secured using the shoulder belt (which is usually required once the kid weighs more than 40 pounds) the seat belt essentially ties the seat down preventing it from tipping and sliding forward. This is because the seatbelt is attached to the C pillar and the seat cannot move once attached to the booster/car seat.

It is obvious once you look at it, but all of the reviews simply said “the seat can move forward with a child’s seat installed”...not so fast.

Not a huge deal as this means I just have to get captain’s chairs, but it took me by surprise.

 

[Artie]

The Expis are starting to show up on dealer lots here in the Dallas area so I went to play with one today. I took my son’s booster seat to see just how well the Tip and Slide seating system works in allowing access to the third row. I was disappointed to learn that it doesn’t. If you are only using the LATCH system, it would work as promised, tipping and sliding forward allowing third-row access. But if you have the seat secured using the shoulder belt (which is usually required once the kid weighs more than 40 pounds) the seat belt essentially ties the seat down preventing it from tipping and sliding forward. This is because the seatbelt is attached to the C pillar and the seat cannot move once attached to the booster/car seat.

It is obvious once you look at it, but all of the reviews simply said “the seat can move forward with a child’s seat installed”...not so fast.

Not a huge deal as this means I just have to get captain’s chairs, but it took me by surprise.

Oh man this kinda sucks for me as we have 2 kids under 2. I guess when we are using the 3rd row we can either put one back there or move one to the middle of the second row so at least there is an option. Thanks for the info!

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

The Expis are starting to show up on dealer lots here in the Dallas area so I went to play with one today. I took my son’s booster seat to see just how well the Tip and Slide seating system works in allowing access to the third row. I was disappointed to learn that it doesn’t. If you are only using the LATCH system, it would work as promised, tipping and sliding forward allowing third-row access. But if you have the seat secured using the shoulder belt (which is usually required once the kid weighs more than 40 pounds) the seat belt essentially ties the seat down preventing it from tipping and sliding forward. This is because the seatbelt is attached to the C pillar and the seat cannot move once attached to the booster/car seat.

It is obvious once you look at it, but all of the reviews simply said “the seat can move forward with a child’s seat installed”...not so fast.

Not a huge deal as this means I just have to get captain’s chairs, but it took me by surprise.

Did you get an opportunity for a test drive?

 

[aggiegrad05]

Unfortunately, no. I called ahead and they said it would be ok, but when I got there the manager had vetoed it. As far as I can tell this was the first one delivered in the area and he said there had already been about 20 people in to see it that day.

I had previously seen the two platinums they had at the Texas State Fair, but this was the first one I had seen with the ebony leather interior...it looks good.

And the BO Sound System is incredible.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Unfortunately, no. I called ahead and they said it would be ok, but when I got there the manager had vetoed it. As far as I can tell this was the first one delivered in the area and he said there had already been about 20 people in to see it that day.

I had previously seen the two platinums they had at the Texas State Fair, but this was the first one I had seen with the ebony leather interior...it looks good.

And the BO Sound System is incredible.

That's too bad. My salesman is going to call me as soon as he get's one here. It told him that I might be crazy enough to trade in my 17 for 18 if I like it enough. My wife may kill me, but it's only money. Easy come, easy go.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Our latch seats are good to 80lbs. After that, after that a backless booster is fine... And the backless boosters are <$30...

 

[JExpedition07]

The one thing I’ll say about sitting behind the wheel of the 18’ is that the 3rd gen looks and feels more aggressive from the drivers seat. The new one is lacking the big raised power dome hood. Im going to keep mine and just put some money in as needed.

 

[JExpedition07]

Unfortunately, no. I called ahead and they said it would be ok, but when I got there the manager had vetoed it. As far as I can tell this was the first one delivered in the area and he said there had already been about 20 people in to see it that day.

I had previously seen the two platinums they had at the Texas State Fair, but this was the first one I had seen with the ebony leather interior...it looks good.

And the BO Sound System is incredible.

Stupid of them to veto the request. The truck is there to be sold not to be admired by employees for a week.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Stupid of them to veto the request. The truck is there to be sold not to be admired by employees for a week.

I guess they don't want to rack up the miles on test drives. People tend to like to buy new vehicles with less than 20 miles on them.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

The one thing I’ll say about sitting behind the wheel of the 18’ is that the 3rd gen looks and feels more aggressive from the drivers seat. The new one is lacking the big raised power dome hood. Im going to keep mine and just put some money in as needed.

The one thing I hate about the power dome hood is the sun reflects off the angled piece and right into my eyes at times. It is most annoying. I've thought about have some flat black vinyl put on the back edge to cut down on the reflection.

 

[JExpedition07]

The one thing I hate about the power dome hood is the sun reflects off the angled piece and right into my eyes at times. It is most annoying. I've thought about have some flat black vinyl put on the back edge to cut down on the reflection.

I’ve never noticed that maybe it’s the white reflecting the sun on yours. All that new shiny paint lol

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I’ve never noticed that maybe it’s the white reflecting the sun on yours. All that new shiny paint lol

It seems to happen most when I'm driving east and the sun is high in the sky. Yes you are right, shiny paint makes it worse.

 

[aggiegrad05]

I guess they don't want to rack up the miles on test drives. People tend to like to buy new vehicles with less than 20 miles on them.

That’s what they said...if everyone who came in got to tool around for a while it’d have 300 miles on it in a week.

I do have to check the LATCH ratings on our seats, but my wife wanted the captains anyway. Plus, a bench in a Platinum just seems weird.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

That’s what they said...if everyone who came in got to tool around for a while it’d have 300 miles on it in a week.

I do have to check the LATCH ratings on our seats, but my wife wanted the captains anyway. Plus, a bench in a Platinum just seems weird.

If I was seriously interested in buying one or placing an order, I would probably take exception to that and find another dealer.

 

[dlcorbett]

Yea, it mustve been ordered for someone who put a deposit on it. It makes no sense to deny a potential buyer from driving it.

 

[aggiegrad05]

If I was seriously interested in buying one or placing an order, I would probably take exception to that and find another dealer.

If I had pushed it they would have allowed it. I told them up front I was not buying that one as I wanted a Max and this was a standard length...so I get it.

 

[JExpedition07]

Ah there you go then It doesn’t sound so bad

 

[shane_th_ee]

...my wife wanted the captains...

Oh, well, that's different. You chose wisely.

 

[gtnator]

It seems to happen most when I'm driving east and the sun is high in the sky. Yes you are right, shiny paint makes it worse.

That's it, Andy!! Time to trade that old rig in for a 2018! ;-)

 

[gtnator]

The Expis are starting to show up on dealer lots here in the Dallas area so I went to play with one today. I took my son’s booster seat to see just how well the Tip and Slide seating system works in allowing access to the third row. I was disappointed to learn that it doesn’t. If you are only using the LATCH system, it would work as promised, tipping and sliding forward allowing third-row access. But if you have the seat secured using the shoulder belt (which is usually required once the kid weighs more than 40 pounds) the seat belt essentially ties the seat down preventing it from tipping and sliding forward. This is because the seatbelt is attached to the C pillar and the seat cannot move once attached to the booster/car seat.

It is obvious once you look at it, but all of the reviews simply said “the seat can move forward with a child’s seat installed”...not so fast.

Not a huge deal as this means I just have to get captain’s chairs, but it took me by surprise.

I assumed this when I saw how they tip/fold. I have the same issue as two of my kids are big enough to use the seat belt to secure their car seat. We have three kids and I keep going back and forth between getting captains seats vs bench. Have you thought of captains vs bench, how many kids etc?