haha well damn, it's too bad your Navi is having so many problems otherwise I'd say let's trade!
The seats and a better suspension would make it worthwhile for me. The iPad like screen is pretty obnoxious, I think the new models will be even worse unfortunately with a big vertical screen!
Anymore Positives? All the written reviews and video reviews talk about how amazing the interior quality is. Would you say it actually does offer better quality? Less creaking maybe? I hate plastic everywhere in my car. Coming from Lexus and Acura they do a good job of limiting that but Ford obviously gives zero sh*ts about using boring looking plastic.
The interior is hands down nicer no doubt, but honestly I'm not a fancy kinda person, so that does nothing for me. But it is by far nicer. I really can't use the interior for anything, so its not important at all to me personally. I'm more of a function guy....
When you say the "better suspension would make it worthwhile"...... My 302A Expedition rides far smoother than this Black Label Navigator does. The Navigator has extremely stiff suspension, you can feel EVERY joint in the highway if it's concrete. My expedition is much softer and far more comfortable. My kids are 6 and 8 and they always say, "Moms Navi rides super rough compared to yours dad!". We all agree my Expedition is far more comfortable riding, but the seats are better in Navigator. When we go cross country we take my Expedition because its so much smoother, AND because the POS Navigator we have rarely runs. lol.
If you have kids to put in the 2nd row, you will HATE the Navigator. The Navigators front seats are literally 3-4X as THICK front to back as the Expedition front seats, so when you go to put kids into the second row of the Navigator there isn't crap for room between the front seats and the 2nd row seats. Its horrible, my wife hates that about hers and then hers has the TV's in the seats, so they stick out another couple inches. Its like crawling into a compact car in comparison to mine for entry......
Not even trying to pick on the Lincoln, but honestly it just "over complicates everything" that is so simple in the Expedition. Some of the radio stuff can only be adjusted on that stupid screen, and I hate that.
The 4wd in the Lincoln is a hassle, you need to dick around with all those babysitter drive modes to find one that happens to have 4wd in it. My Ford I touch the 4A button on the console and forget about everything else. Again, it just over complicates EVERYTHING. If you like that complicated BS, then you will love it. I'm a mechanical guy that would rather have a 6 speed manual transmission in this thing. lol.
Oh, I do like the heads up display in the Lincoln.
Rear seat belts are airbag seatbelts, so most carseats say they will NOT be compatible, so check yours......
The mufflers on the Navigators beller like crazy, so if you like that racket you will enjoy hearing that exhausts ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the time. It drones enough that my wife took it back to dealer 3X for this and we decibel tested brand new ones and they are all identical and sound obnoxious in the cabin. My Expedition is 1/3 as loud in comparison. This is hands down my wifes single biggest complaint. Get it on the highway at 70 mph and set the cruise and then shut all the radio and blowers off and just listen to it droneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. UGH
They're not bad vehicles, but its just not my style I guess. Go drive one and see if you like it.