Warning low oil pressure!

[rjdelp7]

You are ignorant for 'dragging' a Expedition, a brand new one to boot...If you read your manual, is says(in all CAPS, WHAT IS NOT COVERED), specifically racing. During break in, to... avoid hard acceleration/braking and towing. I bet your engine issue, is probably from horsing the piss out of it. Engine failures are rare. The district rep, will probably want a specific reason from dealer, for the failure(data download). Good Luck with that. A co-worker's 2011, had a turbo failure. It was so odd, Ford flew someone to N.Y., to examine truck.

 

[rjdelp7]

Thought all of you might this interesting
Here is a pic of a Ford ECOBOOST piston


Note that they use a forged piston with a steel ring land for the top compression ring just like those used in Diesels
The also use deep skirt blocks with cross bolted mains, forged crankshafts & forged connecting rods
Makes them pretty bullet proof

Racing engines use forged pistons for strength. They handle the pounding, but don't last long. This is a type of forged, but not a racing piston or diesel.

 

[JExpedition07]

Ford uses forged pistons and forged crack powdered metal connecting rods in the 5.4L Triton. They used cross bolted main caps with dowel pins on the 8 bolt crankshaft on light duty truck and high performance 3V engines. They don’t mess around when they build a short block for severe duty. Forged internals have proven to hold up well in truck use. My guess is the ecoboost definitely has forged pistons.

 

[5150 pops]

You are ignorant for 'dragging' a Expedition, a brand new one to boot...If you read your manual, is says(in all CAPS, WHAT IS NOT COVERED), specifically racing. During break in, to... avoid hard acceleration/braking and towing. I bet your engine issue, is probably from horsing the piss out of it. Engine failures are rare. The district rep, will probably want a specific reason from dealer, for the failure(data download). Good Luck with that. A co-worker's 2011, had a turbo failure. It was so odd, Ford flew someone to N.Y., to examine truck.

Well, I don't see your point! The truck was "broken in" well before it ever made it's first pass down the Dragstrip.
All caps or not, I never "raced" my Expedition, this is where you seem to be confused with reality.
Engine failures are rare, my belief at this point is the all new GEN II oil pump has something to do with the problem, whether it is the pump itself, or something else contributing to the problem. The gen 1 pump was a simple mechanical device, gen 2 is anything but simple.
There is an 18 F150 at the same dealer (dealer #2) also 3.5 ecoboost, that had nearly the same miles and is receiving a new head, yes singular.

I do not remember making claims of the engine being toast, only that there's an unexplainable loss of oil pressure...period!

Do you even know what a "race" is? Seriously, you should have an attorney define it for you, before continuing to spew your ignorance all over this thread, and this forum.
I'll give you the cliff notes, as it's painfully obvious you lack any semblance of attention span...

There were no prizes, there were no championship points, and nothing of any monetary value earned.

Weak sauce, pal, weak sauce.
Every vehicle I have owned since the eighties has gone down the Dragstrip, where it is safe, and free from oncoming traffic, trains, deer, and mailboxes. My Honda Pilot and Odyssey being the only exceptions.

Numerous motorcycles, and cars/pickup trucks, not once did any of their engines give up the ghost.

 

[rjdelp7]

Well, I don't see your point! The truck was "broken in" well before it ever made it's first pass down the Dragstrip.
All caps or not, I never "raced" my Expedition, this is where you seem to be confused with reality.
Engine failures are rare, my belief at this point is the all new GEN II oil pump has something to do with the problem, whether it is the pump itself, or something else contributing to the problem. The gen 1 pump was a simple mechanical device, gen 2 is anything but simple.
There is an 18 F150 at the same dealer (dealer #2) also 3.5 ecoboost, that had nearly the same miles and is receiving a new head, yes singular.

I do not remember making claims of the engine being toast, only that there's an unexplainable loss of oil pressure...period!

Do you even know what a "race" is? Seriously, you should have an attorney define it for you, before continuing to spew your ignorance all over this thread, and this forum.
I'll give you the cliff notes, as it's painfully obvious you lack any semblance of attention span...

There were no prizes, there were no championship points, and nothing of any monetary value earned.

Weak sauce, pal, weak sauce.
Every vehicle I have owned since the eighties has gone down the Dragstrip, where it is safe, and free from oncoming traffic, trains, deer, and mailboxes. My Honda Pilot and Odyssey being the only exceptions.

Numerous motorcycles, and cars/pickup trucks, not once did any of their engines give up the ghost.

So sitting on a starting line, spooling up the turbo with one foot on the brake. Then a full throttle launch to the reline, at speeds over 90mph is normal driving? Every time you disable the traction control, it is 'recorded' as a event. You stated "metal in the oil" and a quart low. That's a lot of oil to burn in a new engine and sounds bad. Ford will most likely fix it. I dare you to try it again. I am sure people at the track, had a good laugh watching you 'skin' your new SUV.

 

[5150 pops]

So sitting on a starting line, spooling up the turbo with one foot on the brake. Then a full throttle launch to the reline, at speeds over 90mph is normal driving? Every time you disable the traction control, it is 'recorded' as a event. You stated "metal in the oil" and a quart low. That's a lot of oil to burn in a new engine and sounds bad. Ford will most likely fix it. I dare you to try it again. I am sure people at the track, had a good laugh watching you 'skin' your new SUV.

Just when I thought you couldn't get more outrageous and be more of an inflammatory jackazz, there you go proving me wrong.
What exactly is your end game here, anyway?
How is it adding anything of real substance to this post warning of a drop in oil pressure with a 2018 Expedition?

Right, it's not, not even a little, your sole purpose is to rant about YOUR personal beliefs as if they are factual.

I never conceded there was metal in the oil, go back and read for comprehension jack!
That was a blatant LIE, from dealer number 1!

The oil in question is on it's way to a lab for diagnosis.

You can't even read, yet you post ridiculous statements, in order to cast shame on me. Class act, you are.

It would be to your advantage, to have a steaming hot cup of shut the **** up, and let this thread, develop if it does in fact turn out there is a problem with Ford's electronic variable oil pump.

Not one other person jumped in here for the low hanging fruit, but you, and you've done a masterful job with it too, utterly dumb.

 

[rjdelp7]

Just when I thought you couldn't get more outrageous and be more of an inflammatory jackazz, there you go proving me wrong.
What exactly is your end game here, anyway?
How is it adding anything of real substance to this post warning of a drop in oil pressure with a 2018 Expedition?

Right, it's not, not even a little, your sole purpose is to rant about YOUR personal beliefs as if they are factual.

I never conceded there was metal in the oil, go back and read for comprehension jack!
That was a blatant LIE, from dealer number 1!

The oil in question is on it's way to a lab for diagnosis.

You can't even read, yet you post ridiculous statements, in order to cast shame on me. Class act, you are.

It would be to your advantage, to have a steaming hot cup of shut the **** up, and let this thread, develop if it does in fact turn out there is a problem with Ford's electronic variable oil pump.

Not one other person jumped in here for the low hanging fruit, but you, and you've done a masterful job with it too, utterly dumb.

I stand corrected. The problem with your Expedition is probably the nut, between the seat and steering wheel.

 

[lbv150]

 

[Blackscreen67]

So what ended up being the case here....

 

[5150 pops]

So sitting on a starting line, spooling up the turbo with one foot on the brake. Then a full throttle launch to the reline, at speeds over 90mph is normal driving? Every time you disable the traction control, it is 'recorded' as a event. You stated "metal in the oil" and a quart low. That's a lot of oil to burn in a new engine and sounds bad. Ford will most likely fix it. I dare you to try it again. I am sure people at the track, had a good laugh watching you 'skin' your new SUV.

Here's a little tidbit of published information I ran across today, straight from Ford Performance boss Carl Widmann.

I HAD TO slip it in here, simply because it is indicative vindication of EXACTLY what I've said before, yet some folks tend to think I had/have utterly no clue, or leg to stand on, because my truck has been to a few test and tune events. Of course, any rational beings will appreciate that I've posted this information, and the normal irrational folks who disdain the mere idea of taking a brand new expedExped party bus to a Dragstrip even ONE time, will be fuelled with even more animosity. So be it, agree to disagree, even when faced with even more facts...

Get familiar with Magnusson Moss Act, Lemon laws, and consumer protection laws, rather than listen to a few negative Nancy's who tend to take a regional manager's or dealership level representative's thoughts on certain matters as gospel.
Before it is said, I'd like to affirm, this article is about a Mustang and not an Expedition, BUT the implications are no different, and there is zero possibility for denial as such.

I'd like to call your attention to the following, from the article...
To be specific, taking the GT500 to the drag strip or a test-and-tune track event will not void the warranty. Should an owner enter their GT500 into a bracketed heat at a drag strip, or any track competition, that will void the car's warranty.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...-gt500-warranty-if-you-take-it-to-a-racetrack

 

[5150 pops]

So what ended up being the case here....

Oil pump failure.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Oil pump failure.

Why type of repairs to the engine? Just an oil pump? Any other damage?

 

[rjdelp7]

That warranty repair will follow this 2018, for the rest of its life on Carfax. It will read: major engine failure 3700mi 11/18(aka, probably abused or a lemon). Test and tune is for race cars. I believe this is called pretzel logic. 5000lb SUV's go to Walmart, soccer practice and grocery stores. They have no place on a track.

 

[5150 pops]

That warranty repair will follow this 2018, for the rest of its life on Carfax. It will read: major engine failure 3700mi 11/18(aka, probably abused or a lemon). Test and tune is for race cars. I believe this is called pretzel logic. 5000lb SUV's go to Walmart, soccer practice and grocery stores. They have no place on a track.

Thanks for proving my point.

Glad to live in America, where people can freely do as they please, so long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's liberty/freedom.

Just as you are free to admonish what I've done with my vehicle, you are free to spew your opinion. Yet the one thing you can't do, is refute the facts, which I have repeatedly presented.

Your logic is cracked full of problems.
Do you know there are numerous folks with crewcab pickups gas and diesel even dual rear wheels, with far more horsepower/torque which are daily driven on streets all over the world, that also weigh more than the Expedition, that are regularly seen at the Dragstrip, running even quicker elapsed times than I have with Expedition?

There are class 8 semi tractors also found on the dragstrip that are also much faster than the Expedition, granted they're not pulling a trailer while running down the strip.

Test and tune dates are for whatever the event organizer will allow, and last I checked, it is damn near limitless.

Snowmobiles converted for use on pavement, running low 10's high 9's in the quarter mile are yet another example of what people have done, and continue to do so, because it's fun, and why the hell not.

As far as Carfax is concerned, why does anyone with half a brain give that, jd power, intellichoice, or any of the myriad of other companies and their reports any credence? Vehicle was repaired, or it was not, period.
Do those reports regularly have a negative effect on values, probably some, but surely not anywhere appreciable. 2-5%

Pretzel logic, seems you know all to too well about the subject, as you continue weaving to and fro, fore and aft only to arrive where you began your journey.

I've said my peace, more than proven my point, and last but not least on paper I still own an 2018 Expedition, though in reality, Ford Motor Company has already bought it back, and compensated me accordingly within the limits of the law, for all parts I've installed on it.

 

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[TobyU]

YOU are both correct! People race old beetles, big turbo diesels etc and they have them all doing in the 10s or better.

Anything that runs a 1/4 in the 10s gets to be called fast.

Most people don't get into fast turbo diesel trucks...most as in % of racers or fans.

Even fewer people race stock vehicles...at least not for long.
Very few bother to take an SUV to the track and run it.

A larger % take their Mustang, Camaro, Corvette or other performance car to the strip at least for one night. Most never do it again.
They might road race from time to time but that's it.

Other's as I said above (stock vehicles not for long) start modding it to make it faster and are regulars at the strip seeing the fruits or their labor.

I lived at the track on test and tune.

My best friend and I were both commuting to college at the time and we would get up at 5 am and work on car so we could head to track after classes.

Ended up cutting a lot of labs so I could go to the track early.

 

[rjdelp7]

YOU are both correct! People race old beetles, big turbo diesels etc and they have them all doing in the 10s or better.

Anything that runs a 1/4 in the 10s gets to be called fast.

Most people don't get into fast turbo diesel trucks...most as in % of racers or fans.

Even fewer people race stock vehicles...at least not for long.
Very few bother to take an SUV to the track and run it.

A larger % take their Mustang, Camaro, Corvette or other performance car to the strip at least for one night. Most never do it again.
They might road race from time to time but that's it.

Other's as I said above (stock vehicles not for long) start modding it to make it faster and are regulars at the strip seeing the fruits or their labor.

I lived at the track on test and tune.

My best friend and I were both commuting to college at the time and we would get up at 5 am and work on car so we could head to track after classes.

Ended up cutting a lot of labs so I could go to the track early.

Yeah but... its a V6 powered 2018 Expedition, NOT a Gt500 Mustang. "Stupid is, as stupid does",F Gump.

 

[gbosin]

Yeah but... its a V6 powered 2018 Expedition, NOT a Gt500 Mustang. "Stupid is, as stupid does",F Gump.

It's the same engine as in a Ford GT, albeit detuned. The first Ecoboost completed the Baja 1000 with ease. It is the monster V-6 in the Ford Raptor, It's a race proven engine. So his engine failed, could of happened going to Walmart. Not all are going to come out of the factory perfect, even NASCAR engines fail right out of the shop sometimes. It's the law of averages.