Water/meth

[WJD_xlt]

I see the 5Star tunes are popular here (I’m in the market for one) but am curious, has anyone ran a custom tune with water/meth?

being that I’m in California with piss water 91octane, I’ve begun looking into water/meth for additional safety. But curious if anyone here has first hand experience, and what they found to be the pros/cons?

thanks in advance

 

[Grey ghost]

Nope I I have the 93 performance tune and an 89 performance tune in case I can't get good gas. I wonder if 91 is that much less.
How much power are you looking for? I'm right at 500 rwhp and it does pretty darn good. Beat a new 5.0 mustang the other day pretty handily.

 

[JExpedition07]

Nope I I have the 93 performance tune and an 89 performance tune in case I can't get good gas. I wonder if 91 is that much less.
How much power are you looking for? I'm right at 500 rwhp and it does pretty darn good. Beat a new 5.0 mustang the other day pretty handily.

No you didn’t. That or the 5.0 didn’t know he was racing. You need a lot more than 500 rwhp to roll with the 2,000+ pound lighter car with 460-480 horsepower. I’ll just leave this here, the stock Mustang GT does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds...Not to mention there are E-85 tunes to put down over 500 horsepower at wheels, then it’s gap city with 2,000 less pounds to lug around. Power/Weight 101.

 

[WJD_xlt]

Nope I I have the 93 performance tune and an 89 performance tune in case I can't get good gas. I wonder if 91 is that much less.
How much power are you looking for? I'm right at 500 rwhp and it does pretty darn good. Beat a new 5.0 mustang the other day pretty handily.

Not really a power increase, but more for the safety margins (from what I’ve read)

 

[AKentPhoto]

No you didn’t. That or the 5.0 didn’t know he was racing. You need a lot more than 500 rwhp to roll with the 2,000+ pound lighter car with 460-480 horsepower. I’ll just leave this here, the stock Mustang GT does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds...Not to mention there are E-85 tunes to put down over 500 horsepower at wheels, then it’s gap city with 2,000 less pounds to lug around. Power/Weight 101.

Who doesn't love commentary from the cheap seats?
Not totally disagreeing with you but I have seen way crazier things happen. Peak numbers and magazine times are far from the real world. How many people who own stock stangs could hit 60 in under 4sec on the street? I'm willing to bet less than 1%. Not only does it have to be 2018+ to get the 10spd, it would have to have Pilot Sport 4Ss (I'm guessing some performance pack), be on a drag strip with prepped surface with a burnout and get a perfect launch. Then maaaaaybe. But joe blow on the street? Apparently you give them WAY too much credit. AWD is the dream crusher on the street from a dig. Perfect launch EVERY time and with brake torquing (I'm assuming no launch control on these beasts?) we are already at full boost as the stang is pulling power trying to find traction.

 

[AAOO]

This is what happened to the last guy who mixed up his water and meth.

@16plati

 

[LokiWolf]

Who doesn't love commentary from the cheap seats?
Not totally disagreeing with you but I have seen way crazier things happen. Peak numbers and magazine times are far from the real world. How many people who own stock stangs could hit 60 in under 4sec on the street? I'm willing to bet less than 1%. Not only does it have to be 2018+ to get the 10spd, it would have to have Pilot Sport 4Ss (I'm guessing some performance pack), be on a drag strip with prepped surface with a burnout and get a perfect launch. Then maaaaaybe. But joe blow on the street? Apparently you give them WAY too much credit. AWD is the dream crusher on the street from a dig. Perfect launch EVERY time and with brake torquing (I'm assuming no launch control on these beasts?) we are already at full boost as the stang is pulling power trying to find traction.

Agreed. I have beat MANY on the street that in theory I should not be able to, because of sheer lack of skill and 2 extra drive wheels! Trust me, they were trying! From a roll, completely a different story.


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[LokiWolf]

I see the 5Star tunes are popular here (I’m in the market for one) but am curious, has anyone ran a custom tune with water/meth?

being that I’m in California with piss water 91octane, I’ve begun looking into water/meth for additional safety. But curious if anyone here has first hand experience, and what they found to be the pros/cons?

thanks in advance

Do you have Ethanol available? If you do, you are better off just running an E30 tune and not even messing with Meth.


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[JasonH]

Tune for 89 and run 91. Meth requires more effort and if it ever fails, your engine might go kablooey.

 

[Grey ghost]

No you didn’t. That or the 5.0 didn’t know he was racing. You need a lot more than 500 rwhp to roll with the 2,000+ pound lighter car with 460-480 horsepower. I’ll just leave this here, the stock Mustang GT does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds...Not to mention there are E-85 tunes to put down over 500 horsepower at wheels, then it’s gap city with 2,000 less pounds to lug around. Power/Weight 101.

You weren't there, a good driver vs some clown make a huge difference. 5 star has a video running thier expidition against a 5.0 and there's doesn't have the tow package ,mine does. Gearing helps.I used to run IHRA mountain motor pro stock, I know my way around cars.

 

[TheDoug]

I have to chime in on the mustang... IF they have an auto it is a sub 4 second 0 to 60 car... A manual and an everyday Joe, it is not. With a tuned Expy and that amount of power I would say it could take a STOCK 5.0.

 

[AKentPhoto]

Do you have Ethanol available? If you do, you are better off just running an E30 tune and not even messing with Meth.

This is good advice... Turbos LOVE ethanol. You will see a drop in mileage though.

 

[LokiWolf]

This is good advice... Turbos LOVE ethanol. You will see a drop in mileage though.

My experience with E30, I saw almost no drop. Most Gas is E10. Yes, now that I am running E70 on my Edge, I see a drop. But it is SO worth it!


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[JExpedition07]

This is what happened to the last guy who mixed up his water and meth.

@16plati

Way to go and get coffee everywhere, you sir owe me a new phone

 

[theoldwizard1]

My experience with E30, I saw almost no drop. Most Gas is E10. Yes, now that I am running E70 on my Edge, I see a drop. But it is SO worth it!

Even though I live very near the "corn belt", E85 around here typically sells for a PREMIUM price !

 

[LokiWolf]

Even though I live very near the "corn belt", E85 around here typically sells for a PREMIUM price !

Really? Ours in VA is cheaper than 87!


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[mquick5]

Really? Ours in VA is cheaper than 87!


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Same here, usually 20% cheaper.

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