Why JLT Catch Can at 4x the cost of other options on Amazon & EBay?

[Woodwolf]

I finally decided to add a catch can to my 2019 Platinum. I ma baffled by the abundance of offers on Amazon and EBay. What sets these apart? What do I need to look for? Are the JLT costs justified? with what?
I don’t want to be ignorant about it, I just don’t know. Some guidance from people in the know is greatly appreciated.

 

[armyveterantn]

This one https://offroadalliance.com/products/jlt-oil-catch-can/ is the one I have on the passenger side. I had to massage the bracket using a bench vise and my hand to modify it for my 2017.

This is the correct one https://www.jlosc.com/j-l-oil-separator-3-0-passenger-side-2015-2017-ford-expedition-3-5l-ecoboost/ that doesn't require modification.

 

[LokiWolf]

It is a frickin steal in comparison to MANY out there, from a Company located in Virginia that you can call if you have any issues. Many of the Amazon kits are just metal cans with no screens or baffles.

 

[LokiWolf]

This one https://offroadalliance.com/products/jlt-oil-catch-can/ is the one I have on the passenger side. I had to massage the bracket using a bench vise and my hand to modify it for my 2017.

If you had bought the kit designed for the 15-17 Expedition, you wouldn't have had to bend anything. You bought the wrong kit. There is absolutely no advantage to buy from anywhere other than directly from JLOSC(Previously JLT). Most of the other companies that sell it do direct ship from JLOSC anyway. Also, when you order they verify your car, year, and Engine so you get the correct kit.

 

[armyveterantn]

If you had bought the kit designed for the 15-17 Expedition, you wouldn't have had to bend anything. You bought the wrong kit. There is absolutely no advantage to buy from anywhere other than directly from JLOSC(Previously JLT). Most of the other companies that sell it do direct ship from JLOSC anyway. Also, when you order they verify your car, year, and Engine so you get the correct kit.

I get it, but hey it works and doesn't look half bad where I mounted it. Edited my reply with the correct link for the Expeditions.

 

[LokiWolf]

I get it, but hey it works and doesn't look half bad where I mounted it. Edited my reply with the correct link for the Expeditions.

Agreed. Looks good. One of the options for the 15-17 used to mount there for those that ran early kits on a 2015. Moved to the battery area mount for the current kits. No longer have to reach over the motor. It is an advantage in some ways and disadvantage in others. Still have the 2015 kit in my Garage, from where I removed it, when our 15 was totaled.

 

[Woodwolf]

It is a frickin steal in comparison to MANY out there, from a Company located in Virginia that you can call if you have any issues. Many of the Amazon kits are just metal cans with no screens or baffles.

I get that and I am reluctant to buy offshore stuff. However would a dip stick not be advisable ? Or a drain valve *? Why do some have vents?
I just wanted to learn a little more from people like you with experience.

 

[Alwaysthinkin]

I get that and I am reluctant to buy offshore stuff. However would a dip stick not be advisable ? Or a drain valve *? Why do some have vents?
I just wanted to learn a little more from people like you with experience.

Sounds like you're overthinking this one. JLT catch can is a proven product, installs quickly, easily unscrews for emptying, and just plain works. Just my two cents worth.

 

[chuck s]

I bought the JLT can with the extension to double the capacity. A minor hassle to dump the waste oil because I need a step stool to reach it so the enlarged capacity insures the level never gets near the top if I forget to check it. Easier for me to dismount the can from the firewall so I can get a good grip on it. Takes less time to dismount, dump, and remount than it took to type this.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

I bought the JLT can with the extension to double the capacity. A minor hassle to dump the waste oil because I need a step stool to reach it so the enlarged capacity insures the level never gets near the top if I forget to check it. Easier for me to dismount the can from the firewall so I can get a good grip on it. Takes less time to dismount, dump, and remount than it took to type this.

-- Chuck

The current kit for the 15-`17 no longer mounts to the Firewall. It mounts by the battery on the front left of the Engine bay. That was discussed above.

 

[LokiWolf]

Sounds like you're overthinking this one. JLT catch can is a proven product, installs quickly, easily unscrews for emptying, and just plain works. Just my two cents worth.

THIS! This right here.

 

[LokiWolf]

I get that and I am reluctant to buy offshore stuff. However would a dip stick not be advisable ? Or a drain valve *? Why do some have vents?
I just wanted to learn a little more from people like you with experience.

Offshore Stuff? Some of the parts for the kits come from Non-US sources I am sure, but that is a Guarantee for the eBay/Amazon cheap kits. The JLOSC(JLT) kits are developed, tested, assembled, and shipped out Virginia in the United States. So OffShore, is not really what I would call it.

Dipstick? This isn't a level you are checking. Just unscrew and dump. Some of the really expensive kits have a drain valve, but in my opinion it is overkill. It is a closed system, so vents are not advisable.

 

[Woodwolf]

Offshore Stuff? Some of the parts for the kits come from Non-US sources I am sure, but that is a Guarantee for the eBay/Amazon cheap kits. The JLOSC(JLT) kits are developed, tested, assembled, and shipped out Virginia in the United States. So OffShore, is not really what I would call it.

Dipstick? This isn't a level you are checking. Just unscrew and dump. Some of the really expensive kits have a drain valve, but in my opinion it is overkill. It is a closed system, so vents are not advisable.

Appreciate your response, but I think you missed my objective. I simply wanted a little more education about the market and the different options available, like why are some units vented?
Based on the feedback I get my request is misunderstood and with offshore stuff I meant evrything else but JLOSC

 

[LokiWolf]

Your terms and questions created additional questions, that I asked. I also answered all of your questions...

You basically implied JLOSC was expensive. It is VERY much the opposite. It does what it claims(captures Blowby and Oil vapors, and prevents them from leading to deposits in your intake), for a VERY good price. With an actual company you can call or e-mail if you do actually have an issue.

There are high end kits out there with cans for both sides of the motor, and drain valves, that require drilling and modifying existing hoses, that are 2 and 3 times the price. You might get 5% more collected in those kits that cost WAY more. It is a waste of time and money. The cheap Amazon/Ebay kits many times don't actually collect much, because they have no screen or baffle to slow down the vapor so it can cool and condense to be collected in the can. SO they basically do nothing.

There are tons of threads on here about the Cans with pictures of what people collected on your exact motor. I suggest you do a search and take a look! I think you will get many more of your questions answered. If you have anymore specific questions, I should be able to answer them.

 

[Woodwolf]

Your terms and questions created additional questions, that I asked. I also answered all of your questions...

You basically implied JLOSC was expensive. It is VERY much the opposite. It does what it claims(captures Blowby and Oil vapors, and prevents them from leading to deposits in your intake), for a VERY good price. With an actual company you can call or e-mail if you do actually have an issue.

There are high end kits out there with cans for both sides of the motor, and drain valves, that require drilling and modifying existing hoses, that are 2 and 3 times the price. You might get 5% more collected in those kits that cost WAY more. It is a waste of time and money. The cheap Amazon/Ebay kits many times don't actually collect much, because they have no screen or baffle to slow down the vapor so it can cool and condense to be collected in the can. SO they basically do nothing.

There are tons of threads on here about the Cans with pictures of what people collected on your exact motor. I suggest you do a search and take a look! I think you will get many more of your questions answered. If you have anymore specific questions, I should be able to answer them.

Oh boy, this is getting a little sensitive. As a Canadian customer not having free shipping and a bad exchange rate I think it is reasonable to look a little deeper and ask some questions before spending big bucks.
But rest in piece, I have in the meantime ordered a kit from JLOSC with the 3 ounce extension. My bottom line for this purchase was CAD 346.00 Inc. Shipping.
I agree the service and Communication I got from JLOSC was top notch.

 

[LokiWolf]

Oh boy, this is getting a little sensitive. As a Canadian customer not having free shipping and a bad exchange rate I think it is reasonable to look a little deeper and ask some questions before spending big bucks.
But rest in piece, I have in the meantime ordered a kit from JLOSC with the 3 ounce extension. My bottom line for this purchase was CAD 346.00 Inc. Shipping.
I agree the service and Communication I got from JLOSC was top notch.

Congratulations on your purchase. Other kits from the US would have had similar shipping/exchange issues.

Sensitive? I am so confused. Many people answered your questions including myself, in addition to suggesting you do a search on here, where you can find many threads, with pictures and customers reviews. This has been discussed MANY times, and A LOT of good info is available on you specific application.

Enjoy your kit.

 

[Fastcar]

Shit, I go through life a little confused. Easier that way! lol