2016 85k miles, transmission went out

[TobyU]

I went to see the dropped tranny

they just put it on the lift so it wasn’t fully disconnected
The mechanic is saying it broker in the transfer case or in the body of the tranny
I had to leave so I asked them to take a picture of the broker input shaft
He then said it might not appear broken as it might be broken in the body of the tyranny

They have been ripping people off showing them broken parts and crap for years. Transmission shops are a bunch of crooks. That's simply all there is to it. There might be a few honest guys out there but I doubt there is an entirely honest shop in existence. If you have over two people working at transmission shop it would be hard for both of them to be honest. Just the way it works. I don't know why but that's the way it is.
If an honest man starts working at a transmission shop he will either quit or become a crook in 9 months.. the other option is to have ethical dilemmas while he still there up until the point he gets fed up enough to quit but the end result is still the same.
Unfortunately they win once they do anything more than test drive and scan the codes. Once they start taking things apart you're in a predicament where you just can't win and 95 to 97% plus the people end up paying and doing whatever they recommend.
The only real way to save money is to stay away from transmission shops.

 

[and0r]

I went to see the dropped tranny

they just put it on the lift so it wasn’t fully disconnected
The mechanic is saying it broker in the transfer case or in the body of the tranny
I had to leave so I asked them to take a picture of the broker input shaft
He then said it might not appear broken as it might be broken in the body of the tyranny

complete horseshit
look into hiring an attorney.
honestly, shops need to stop pulling this kind of shit. it's literal criminal fraud

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

I was told many transmission shops try to not diagnose broken in service transmissions anymore because it is safer to just sell a complete new transmission. They can be on the hook if they attempt to diagnose and fix a transmission and the new part doesn’t fix.

I imagine diagnostic costs are a factor also. The family that runs our local trans shop are friends of ours and I trust that they wouldn't try to fleece us on a new trans. Actually, I trust that they wouldn't fleece anyone else either as they're honest to the point of it costing them money. That said, they're not going to tear the whole thing apart at their own expense to diagnose a trans issue and they know no one is going to pay half a day's labor for them to do so either. So they run the typical diagnostics and base their recommendation on that. If one has the time and skill to do all the work on their own, I imagine many "unrepairable" transmissions would be repairable on the cheap.

 

[bobmbx]

Its happened to me as well. My Explorer tranny was being goofy, but not all the time. Mostly in the summer. Had it 'diagnosed' by a brand-name tranny shop who declared it FUBAR, and for a mere $2000-$3000 I could be back on the road again. Hmmmm....

Had it diagnosed at a local friend of a friend sorta place. The guy comes out and says "your electrical connector was loose, letting condensation from your AC into the connection causing weird stuff. I tightened it up for ya....let me know if that doesn't work..no charge"

 

[and0r]

I imagine diagnostic costs are a factor also. The family that runs our local trans shop are friends of ours and I trust that they wouldn't try to fleece us on a new trans. Actually, I trust that they wouldn't fleece anyone else either as they're honest to the point of it costing them money. That said, they're not going to tear the whole thing apart at their own expense to diagnose a trans issue and they know no one is going to pay half a day's labor for them to do so either. So they run the typical diagnostics and base their recommendation on that. If one has the time and skill to do all the work on their own, I imagine many "unrepairable" transmissions would be repairable on the cheap.

yeah, you are basically excusing cheap work.
no offense but at a specialist, you better expect proper diagnostic work. i mean really, "scanning for codes" and nothing else? get real. what do you consider as typical diagnostics?

 

[Machete]

Input rod broke, need replacement transmission
5k

that’s what I get for buying a ford

Im no longer a fan of Ford but this crap isn’t isolated to just Ford. All vehicles from big 3 suck.
This is why I’m keeping my 1st gen w 200,*** miles. Next truck will be a Toyota.
All new cars/trucks suck.
Read the 4th gen threads if you want to feel better.

 

[JExpedition07]

yeah, you are basically excusing cheap work.
no offense but at a specialist, you better expect proper diagnostic work. i mean really, "scanning for codes" and nothing else? get real. what do you consider as typical diagnostics?

It is what it is. They have a business to run and diagnosing the transmission and repairing the singled out faulty parts doesn't always fix it or make it new again. Selling a new transmission does make it new again, I don’t blame them. The customer has to pay for diagnosis and repair of the old trans and it may not be worth it, again a new transmission will be worth it. I just went thru this whole dilemma on my 6R75, I got a P0741 and no lockup from the TC. Being a college aged male when I got the $4,500 diagnosis of new transmission I told them that isn’t an option and that they need to do better. After supplying TSBs from Ford they narrowed it down to valve body parts and repaired it. It fixed mine, but for someone who has the funds for a new transmission on hand how would they feel if they spent $1,000 on old but in their case it was throwing good after bad? They wouldn’t be very happy.

 

[and0r]

It is what it is. They have a business to run and diagnosing the transmission and repairing the singled out faulty parts doesn't always fix it or make it new again. Selling a new transmission does make it new again, I don’t blame them. The customer has to pay for diagnosis and repair of the old trans and it may not be worth it, again a new transmission will be worth it. I just went thru this whole dilemma on my 6R75, I got a P0741 and no lockup from the TC. Being a college aged male when I got the $4,500 diagnosis of new transmission I told them that isn’t an option and that they need to do better. After supplying TSBs from Ford they narrowed it down to valve body parts and repaired it. It fixed mine, but for someone who has the funds for a new transmission how would they feel if they spent $1,000 like me but in their case it was throwing good after bad? They wouldn’t be very happy to spend that plus new money on top. If they just spend that 5 grand it’s fixed with warranty.

thats a really cool story, but in the case of the original poster of this topic, the transmission will not engage at all.
now what would you expect that to be?

 

[JExpedition07]

thats a really cool story, but in the case of the original poster of this topic, the transmission will not engage at all.
now what would you expect that to be?

New Transmission Time, exactly what they are doing. Hence we don’t understand why you guys are blasting the shops diagnosis.

 

[TobyU]

I imagine diagnostic costs are a factor also. The family that runs our local trans shop are friends of ours and I trust that they wouldn't try to fleece us on a new trans. Actually, I trust that they wouldn't fleece anyone else either as they're honest to the point of it costing them money. That said, they're not going to tear the whole thing apart at their own expense to diagnose a trans issue and they know no one is going to pay half a day's labor for them to do so either. So they run the typical diagnostics and base their recommendation on that. If one has the time and skill to do all the work on their own, I imagine many "unrepairable" transmissions would be repairable on the cheap.

In these rare cases where you can find people who are reputable and are trying to rip you off, the problem is people who can actually diagnose internal transmission problems and willing to repair them are non-existent today. All shops really know how to do is say you need a rebuild or we need to swap it out with another unit. That's where they make their money.
Anytime you go beyond just pulling the pan and maybe pulling the valve body you might as well pull the transmission since it'll be out anyways and you might as well rebuild it so they want all the money and the mark upthat make on parts.
There are plenty of dealer tsb's for things like TCC solenoid problems Etc that are easily fixed with just a part or two and minimal tear down but most all shops oh, whether they know it or not, and a lot of them don't even know, we'll simply say you need a rebuild. It's basically all they know how to do today.