I had a friend check the compression, fuel pressure, and even the oil pressure while he was at it and it all came back good. So the only thing I can think of is the coil packs that I have aren't cutting it because it ran good for a few days and now it ain't and I've gite more than one cylinder skipping now and at times it's a dead skip for a few minutes. So my question is should I just buy factory ford cops or the accel cops or any other ones that are good.
What's the best cops to buy??
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They're all good... You'll hear various replies from various folks about various things and why they're the best various coils... (hogwash)
Just buy what you can... You can get 8x @ sub 100.00 off ebay... They work great!... some will say not to buy... others will say accel (or =) & others will chime in that they're junk unless you get motorcraft... So now what?
I'll tell you what... You have more than one hole misfireing. you need to keep playing around with them... They're obviously not getting contact. (i.e. per previous threads / posts.) and on top of that I figure you have more than one coil at the ready, to swap in and out.
Dude, (I don't mean to sound like an a-hole, I'm not) But they can be a 'big time' pain in the ass. -- keep at it. -- I don't know if there's been a ford tech alive that's replaced a full set without getting a (misc.) misfire afterward in one or more holes... -- It doesn't mean the coils are bad... You gotta replace, move, reset, "misfire" drive test, replace / move as needed, reset, "misfire" drive test... etc... if required... == (code readers are your best friend at this point.)
Other than that, sure, go ahead, spend another 300.00 on parts that will give you the same issues (maybe). -- I thought I saw in previous posts you've already purchased a number of new coils?
Good luck... And keep posting back on results (in 1 thread)... We're here to help...
roll tide.Ok thanks. I've had people tell me that I should've bought motor raft to go back in and I've had a few tell me to buy the accel because of their high spark and heat resistance but I didn't understand why the ones I have wouldn't work. And yes I have quiet a few layin around at the moment to swap in and out and I do have a scanner. By the way I like that roll tide at the end there. And I'm not considering anyone on here a hole. I'd rather somebody tell me like it is than beat around the bush about everything.
SkyJumper
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Yes please, you have 4 threads going on this same issue. Stick with one thread as everyone can follow along and give you help on the issue. No need for anything other than 1 thread. Screws with peoples minds trying to help and they are looking at more than 1 thread for the same member on the same issue.
And yes, we are all here to help.
I can do that. Never been on one of these things so I didn't really no how it works. But now I do.
SkyJumper
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Most auotparts stores will read codes for you for free. And from the talk here you have picked up a few cops ($$$).. While i wont recomend any specific one, a cheap scanner can be had on Ebay for $60.. worth its wieght in gold sometimes. I have one i paid $64 shipped, led readout, live data etc.. Mine told me the exact plug that was missing on mine (i dont have COPS, jsut wires and 2 coil packs). As a new expy owner i can vouch for teh "test" when i changed plugs, wires and coils when i fired it up I still had a MISS! I was to be 100% honest not a happy new FORD owner.. (gm guy) cuzed the truck and after the plug change was not ready to 'digg in" again. I said screw it and drove it home ( was at a freinds about 2 miles from my house he has heated garage). As i drove home the miss disappered (maybe a flooded cyclinder?) all i know is its runnig perfect since. if you hear a miss, give it a short bit to clear up.. dont just shut it off right away..I'm not saying it will be the same as mine.. but if i had kept working on it after a few secons of listening to miss i might still be working on it.. good luck
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mine came from ebay... store was global automotive.... have been good for almost 2 yrs now
I myself am a gm guy to. Bow tie all the way but my wife wanted a bigger vehicle and this is what she choose. Now I'm stuck with the headache. Never in my life had this kinda problem out of a Chevy but I've never had to work on one this new either. I like carbirators myself. SOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER TO WORK ON. but seriously though this thing is confusing as all get out because of the way it ran b4 I changed the plugs and cops
hey...
CEL isn't needed to detect misfire... Clear everything out & run the "misfire" part of the "ford drive cycle"... It's all over google & I'm pretty sure it's been discussed in here somewhere... It's 1 single cut sheet, printable so you can run them all if you want... (Evap will take you about, umm forever, so don't worry about that one.)
The misfire test is something along the lines of: (do the following three times in a row, then check for codes) -- it helps to get on a freeway between onramps / offramps to do this.
1. from stop position: gas it up to 65mph (doesn't hurt to get on it a little here)
2. once @ 65mph, foot off gas & coast from 65 to 40 (do not brake here)
3. brake to stop.
the speeds above may be off a little... I can't remember... But just google it - "ford drive cycle"...
* you can just leave your scanner hooked up when doing these tests.
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Kevo
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well ive owned a few gm trucks and cars from the same vintage and they have theyre own clusterf*ck of problems. as for COP's i would get MSD's or motorcraft i have never once had a factory part or an MSD product fail i have had bad experiences with Accel and some of the aftermarket brands also you may want to clean the connectors with electrical connector cleaner or brakekleen or even just some alcohol. then lube the seal with die-electric grease and make sure then reconnect them firmly.
Yea I looked it up today. Gonna try it this weekend. Gonna to busy to do much of anything till Saturday. I hope I can figure it out soon because I do like expy just a little hard to understand how a simple tune up turned into a massive headache.
I no this is a little off the subject but I gotta say man your expy looks good. I like what you did with the color on there.
yes sorry my comment was not to say one or the other was better , but more to say I know GM's and the Ford was new to me.. and hoe a problem can really ruin your perception (especialy a hasty made one).. I have owned a couple of mustangs, Couger, Explorer, Tracer (mazda really), tempo (awsome mileage!!!) and about every other make. I have nothing bad to say about any of my Fords except he early Mustangs.. had a 65 and 69 fastback.. the 65 was an econo car in every respect (striaght 6 and 3 speed).. hated that car.. the 69 looked awsome and had the 429... but i must have had a dud.. that 429 was .. just sad.. even geared my 61 impala with a 70- chevy 400 small block in it would beat it.. one dud does not make a car company...
as a GM guy .. i wont say anything bad about the fords i have owned (except the stangs).. not much fun changing the plugs on the NEW expy.. but eh.. what car (as stated) doesnt have its quirks..
good luck with your miss..keep us informed.
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I can tell you what to stay away from LOL.... ordered granatelli coil packs from jegs as a set to just replace all 8... every single one of the granatellis that I bought failed within 5k miles... stay away LOL
Those were the cheaper granatelli cops... don't know if the more expensive ones are better...
I have purchased many different coils and the accel coils seem to be the best I think. I have purchased many different brands from part stores and they are junk again within a year. Once I stuck an accel in I haven't had a problem since...the warranty on them isn't as long as others, but it's funny because they have outlasted any other coil I have used and they are cheaper.
I have heard nothin but good things about the accel but I wanted to ask b4 I spent another 300$ on coils again. I think I'm just gonna try to use what I have for now I just have to find the one that's missing. I changed a few of them around today and it ran good for about 15 minutes and started all over again. And it keeps showing #4 misfire. I don't what else to do to that plug. I've changed the cop three or four times and the plug twice and even swapped the plug and cop with another hole and it keeps showin that one missing. Unless I'm getting a false reading some how. Really frustrating the crap out of me.
(Just talking jiberish outloud here)
You're wiping that P0304 code out, right?
Did you swap 1 & 4 injector?
Your wires @ the injector aren't crossed up are they - I don't think they're long enough to cross 3 & 4 but who knows & I assume that would give you 303 and 304 codes?
Yes I clear the code every time it comes up and I didn't swap the injectors I just replaced the one at #4 cylinder. And no the wires aren't long enough to cross up
