Lift and tires. Need help

[Gus Fuller]

Well guys no longer a "ladies" car.
Thanks to all of you for the info on lift,tires and wheels. This is what 35" tires on 18" wheels with a ready lift 3/2 looks like. View attachment 21623View attachment 21623 View attachment 21624View attachment 21625View attachment 21626

Looks great, Floyd! What tires/size did you go with? They look a little wider than mine and it makes me wonder if I should have gone 295...

 

[Gus Fuller]

Lots of show cars out there. Did you notice any change in gas mileage?

I took a pretty significant hit in mpg. Was averaging around 16.5 before, and now 14 or up to almost 15 when I drive very easy, which is almost never

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I took a pretty significant hit in mpg. Was averaging around 16.5 before, and now 14 or up to almost 15 when I drive very easy, which is almost never

I like the the look but I don't want to take the hit in MPG if you know what I mean.

 

[Adieu]

Hey, Adieu.

I understand your sentiment, but I think it is pretty irresponsible of our federal/state/local governments to not regulate the safety of a few $multi-billion(?) industry.

Check out this link and tell me what you think.

https://www.sema.org/federal-regulation-aftermarket-parts




Thanks, Andy. I live in Los Angeles and the authorities don't seem too concerned about stuff like that. I do plan on installing mud flaps soon, though, since it's going to start raining in a couple of months.

Thats for emissions and compliance to existing laws about lights and tire labelling and whatnot.

NOBODY regulated shocks, struts, springs, etc.

 

[Adieu]

He's blowing smoke up your butt. Car manufacturers will never "recommend" something not manufactured by them.

And when they tell you that, it doens't mean it'll screw up your car. It means "order it from me so I can make a buck". I'd go back and play the straight man to his response.

Question #1: "Really? Which sensors?"
Question #2: "How does Fords' product not cause the same damage or interference?"
Question #3: "If I buy Fords' chains and they damage my car, is that covered under warranty?"

A properly installed, quality tire chain will not damage or interfere with your "sensors". If they are too slack, you can start slapping your fenders with them, but that would be your fault, right?

Its CYA legalese which boils down to "we cannot guarantee that rando addons by companies unknown to and not approved by us wont cause rando weirdness, so our official policy is to never recommend anything except our own stuff"

 

[Gus Fuller]

Thats for emissions and compliance to existing laws about lights and tire labelling and whatnot.

NOBODY regulated shocks, struts, springs, etc.

This conversation has been eye opening! It speaks again for my inexperience... I guess all that's left for me to do until I am ready to go for a custom lift is to drive carefully and hope ReadyLift honors its warranty, which is similar to what you get with ProComp and Rough Country suspension lift systems.

Thanks for your input, Adieu.

 

[Gus Fuller]

I like the the look but I don't want to take the hit in MPG if you know what I mean.

I completely understand, but it was pretty easy for me to justify the larger tires once I actually looked at the cost of gas.

We will probably only drive the truck 8500 miles a year, at the very most and that includes short summer/winter road trips. Average 87 gas is around $3.00 around here (it has actually been a lot less, but regular is creeping up to around $2.90 right now). At 16.5 MPG, cost of gas a year would be around $1550 a year [(8500 mi/16.5 MPG)*$3.00 per Gal]... 14 MPG will be around $1850 a year [(8500 mi/14 MPG)*$3.00 per Gal]. The extra $300 over the course of a year is less than $30 a month. People tend to pay more for things they think look cool, even if those things aren't quite the best people can get. That has been the marketing model for Apple for a few years now, and they are doing just fine. And besides, I can just cut back on Starbucks to cover the extra gas...

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I completely understand, but it was pretty easy for me to justify the larger tires once I actually looked at the cost of gas.

We will probably only drive the truck 8500 miles a year, at the very most and that includes short summer/winter road trips. Average 87 gas is around $3.00 around here (it has actually been a lot less, but regular is creeping up to around $2.90 right now). At 16.5 MPG, cost of gas a year would be around $1550 a year [(8500 mi/16.5 MPG)*$3.00 per Gal]... 14 MPG will be around $1850 a year [(8500 mi/14 MPG)*$3.00 per Gal]. The extra $300 over the course of a year is less than $30 a month. People tend to pay more for things they think look cool, even if those things aren't quite the best people can get. That has been the marketing model for Apple for a few years now, and they are doing just fine. And besides, I can just cut back on Starbucks to cover the extra gas...

Gus that is a great point. I've had mine since February 20th I have 4941.5 on mine right now. I'll probably put another 2K on it before February so that makes it about 7000 miles per year. I am seriously considering the 3/2 easy lift I think it's called. I ,might do that and run stock tires until I wear them out. I like sitting up higher and I like the idea of having extra ground clearance for snowy weather.

 

[J Ski]

Well guys no longer a "ladies" car.
Thanks to all of you for the info on lift,tires and wheels. This is what 35" tires on 18" wheels with a ready lift 3/2 looks like. View attachment 21623View attachment 21623 View attachment 21624View attachment 21625View attachment 21626

Are those 11.50 or 12.50 wides?

 

[Floyd]

Looks great, Floyd! What tires/size did you go with? They look a little wider than mine and it makes me wonder if I should have gone 295...

They are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5
Fuel Wheels

 

[Floyd]

Are those 11.50 or 12.50 wides?

They are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5
Fuel Wheels

 

[Vancouver Bob]

They are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5
Fuel Wheels

Those look like the AT II's. Had those on my Expy for the longest time... really liked them. Went to the RT's when I went up in size. They're a bit noisier but I like the tread design. Went from a little over 14 mpg down to 11. Considering regearing once I win the lottery.

You've got a good looking setup, Floyd!

 

[Gus Fuller]

They are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5
Fuel Wheels

I agree with Bob. Your truck does look good. Makes me wish i had gone with that size...
What's the offset on your wheels? Do you get much rubbing?

 

[Floyd]

I agree with Bob. Your truck does look good. Makes me wish i had gone with that size...
What's the offset on your wheels? Do you get much rubbing?

Not much rubbing. We trimmed a little on front plastic. Only rubbing when turning sharp on a extremely slope down hill.
I'm still not sure how to navigate this forum so I'm going to answer/comment on some others questions and posts.
The wheel have no off set or at least they measure the same from both sides. The wheels have some noise but I'm okay with that.
Also I live in rural Mississippi, no one regulates anything on our truck setup and they would be waisting their time if they tried to.
On a side note the speedometer is off about 4-5 mph. And this turbo 6 is freaking impressive.
Wish I could find a front brush guard or bull bar I really liked.

 

[NASCAR Mike]

" I like sitting up higher and I like the idea of having extra ground clearance for snowy weather.

How does raising the body up give you extra ground clearance? The lower control arms / differentials are the lowest point and they determine the ground clearance.

Wouldn't you need to install taller tires to get increased ground clearance?

 

[LokiWolf]

How does raising the body up give you extra ground clearance? The lower control arms / differentials are the lowest point and they determine the ground clearance.

Wouldn't you need to install taller tires to get increased ground clearance?

Not sure who you were quoting since you cut that out, but most of the people who have done the lift, put taller Tires on. That is the point of a lift. More clearance for taller tires.

RVA? Where?

 

[NASCAR Mike]

Quinton

 

[LokiWolf]

Quinton

Glen Allen. Work in Southside. Nice to have another in the RVA. Welcome!

 

[Vancouver Bob]

How does raising the body up give you extra ground clearance? The lower control arms / differentials are the lowest point and they determine the ground clearance.

Wouldn't you need to install taller tires to get increased ground clearance?

What Andy was saying is he's thinking of doing a suspension lift, which essentially shoves the suspension downward and lifts the entire vehicle up relative to the wheels/tires... increased ground clearance. But you're right, adding taller tires will raise the vehicle as well. And if you do both the vehicle sits that much higher.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

What Andy was saying is he's thinking of doing a suspension lift, which essentially shoves the suspension downward and lifts the entire vehicle up relative to the wheels/tires... increased ground clearance. But you're right, adding taller tires will raise the vehicle as well. And if you do both the vehicle sits that much higher.

I'm still thinking about doing this. I just don't have the funds right now. I'm trying to decide how it would look with the stock 20" wheels and tires. I don't think it would look bad.