Disabling auto start/stop

[cekkk]

Just another expensive gimmick to squeeze a tenth of an MPG for CAFE to satisfy ridiculous EPA/NHTSA community. Same with my 6.2 dropping to a 4 cylinder when load lightens. The urban dwellers who make up these regs don't care how much it adds to our costs. They're taking the train to work.

Enjoy that 17 mpg over 16. You've paid thousands for it.

 

[Dormammu]

ONLY if you have the TOW package you can disable auto start/stop with a trailer light tester.

 

[rob4092xx]

But once you install this, you lose the backup alarm beeps warning you of something behind you.

 

[NyackRob79]

It absolutely kicks on in “normal” mode when at a busy 4 way stop or at a cross traffic 2 way stop. Then, when you try to quickly accelorate to get into traffic you get engine lag. For me I can feather the brake to kick the motor on, but the wife not so much. It seems all Ford would have to do is program the functionality into the system. At any rate I ordered th cabling and downloaded FORScan in order to turn it off. Hopefully the FORScan community will discover a hack to have off as default.

From what I understand, it’s a regulatory issue. In order for Ford to claim certain MPG numbers and meet EPA requirements, the measure cannot be permanently disabled. Only per-ride. You can thank our wonderful government for sticking its fingers into our daily lives yet again.

 

[st381183]

It can be permanently disabled through FORScan or by unplugging a wire bundle under the dash. I prefer FORScan but there are youtube vids about what to unplug. I tried unplugging and found the interior click rate of the turn signals to be increased while the exterior signals flashed the same as normal. I went the FORScan route and haven’t looked back.

 

[NyackRob79]

It can be permanently disabled through FORScan or by unplugging a wire bundle under the dash. I prefer FORScan but there are youtube vids about what to unplug. I tried unplugging and found the interior click rate of the turn signals to be increased while the exterior signals flashed the same as normal. I went the FORScan route and haven’t looked back.

I just downloaded the FORScan lite app for $5 and ordered the $25 OBD dongle. Plan to do the same.

 

[edizzle]

What model OBD device did you guys get?

 

[jgudnason]

I just downloaded the FORScan lite app for $5 and ordered the $25 OBD dongle. Plan to do the same.

25$ sounds suspect for an ODB2 dongle that will actually work.

my tool was $85 USD - one of the recommended ones.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NZTZLQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

see page 1 of this document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8dKaS_Spu4Zw4hV_CrKC4tLoP9G8yejqegF1wxIqxY/edit

from this thread (worth the week to read it, lots of good info in there):
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/forscan-software-enable-disable-features-your-truck-348987/

and the spreadsheet with values for the F150 (haven't really found any variance yet with the expedition)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iVSlDFGFHnfeuhb3RTMVz95730/edit#gid=815852466

 

[East-TN]

I just downloaded the FORScan lite app for $5 and ordered the $25 OBD dongle. Plan to do the same.

Just FYI...the FORSCAN lite app won’t allow you to make any changes. It will only let you see the data, but no changes.

 

[st381183]

FORScan is free but you have to register for a license which expires every 90 days. It takes a day or so for them to approve the license. I think once they figure out how to bill for it they will.

 

[Artie]

I literarily bought the recommended $85 dongle last night. I wish it would work with iOS but seeing that I have to use my pc to make any changes I figured what’s the point. I have an android device so if I want I can monitor it but I’m assuming it won’t be as cool as I think. I’m just hoping all the values are the same for the Navigator.

 

[st381183]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F0GVBWY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works like a charms and was only $29.99

 

[East-TN]

25$ sounds suspect for an ODB2 dongle that will actually work.

my tool was $85 USD - one of the recommended ones.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NZTZLQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

see page 1 of this document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8dKaS_Spu4Zw4hV_CrKC4tLoP9G8yejqegF1wxIqxY/edit

from this thread (worth the week to read it, lots of good info in there):
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/forscan-software-enable-disable-features-your-truck-348987/

and the spreadsheet with values for the F150 (haven't really found any variance yet with the expedition)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iVSlDFGFHnfeuhb3RTMVz95730/edit#gid=815852466

Or you can go to this Expedition discussion to learn more:

http://www.expeditionforum.com/threads/forscan-tweaks-2015.32082/

And then take a look at our Expedition spreadsheet for some 2018 options:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iO4Uz1shNRwZv5gi2TKARDo2Y7lfSOMFj6Gott8g7yg/edit?usp=sharing

Just select the 2018 tab at the bottom.

If you find any errors, or if you find other codes that work, please let me know and I'll add it to our Expedition spreadsheet. Thanks.

 

[jgudnason]

Fair enough, but the f150 spreadsheet has way way way more info in it that this one has. (i do recall seeing this sheet at least once).
I've read the 4th gen forscan thread, and the top one, but frankly the forum here when is comes to forscan is pretty slow when compared to F150.

So yes, Thank you for the links here, I believe anyone who is really interested in forscan modifications should read both.

And biggest issue right now for the 2018 Exped is cant flash anything on the IPC module

 

[rob4092xx]

I'd pay $29 in a minute to disable auto on/off but I am terrified of screwing something up. Is this a difficult process? Can anyone please post very descriptive step-by-step so I wouldn't mess things up? PLEASE?

 

[jgudnason]

I'd pay $29 in a minute to disable auto on/off but I am terrified of screwing something up. Is this a difficult process? Can anyone please post very descriptive step-by-step so I wouldn't mess things up? PLEASE?

the google doc link listed in my post above IS a very thorough step by step with pictures.

I would say anyone familiar with computers / bluetooth / basic IT concepts, it's very easy. Hardest part is getting the adapter and the forscan dev license (apply for that ahead of time, can take a day waiting)

 

[rob4092xx]

I looked at the Google link and it is a code list....no instructions on what to do. Thanks however!

 

[East-TN]

I looked at the Google link and it is a code list....no instructions on what to do. Thanks however!

This tutorial may help to understand FORSCAN and how to make changes using the codes on the other spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8dKaS_Spu4Zw4hV_CrKC4tLoP9G8yejqegF1wxIqxY/mobilebasic

 

[jgudnason]

I looked at the Google link and it is a code list....no instructions on what to do. Thanks however!

this one:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8dKaS_Spu4Zw4hV_CrKC4tLoP9G8yejqegF1wxIqxY/edit

not the spreadsheet.

 

[jgudnason]

Lol.. 17LimitedExpy and I... same link.