JExpedition07
That One Member
Yes I agree the Tahoe RST is crazy fast, I mean a full size SUV coming in at 5.7 Seconds 0-60! Something to admire. GM has a great motor in that 6.2L, all while getting better MPGs than a 6 cylinder.
2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road
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Yet, wrong again, if we of course use the sacred OEM numbers.
Tahoe RST 14/22
Expedition Platinum 17/23
Don’t get me wrong. RST is again a beast. I personally like the ride of the independent rear in the Expy, and the added rear floor space it allows.
Lost the discussion talking about Ford V8’s, so you brought the Chevy in. Smoke and Mirrors.
Nope, just making a point of what editing should be used for. Fixing a post not completely changing it.
JExpedition07
That One Member
There is no losing lol. I was not aware you could “lose” a discussion. Simply pointing out great V8 motors of today, smelling the roses if you will. I never had to leave ford here.... the 6.2L and 6.7L are top dog in the market.
JExpedition07
That One Member
NRFD. BTW anyone see the new GM 4.2L TT V8?
Trainmaster
Old School Member
Boy! What conflict! I didn't to insult or fuel a ******* match. I just like the durability, quiet and smoothness of a V-8. To me that far trumps the modest mileage and power gains.
Strictly opinion, guys.
Doesn't mean my V-8 won't blow a head gasket at 90K, but it will never ever suck in a turbo impeller.
Strictly opinion, guys.
Doesn't mean my V-8 won't blow a head gasket at 90K, but it will never ever suck in a turbo impeller.
I had a 2012 Limited with the V8 and now have a 2017 with the Ecoboost V6. I find the Ecoboost has better gas mileage and better pickup. I just returned from a trip to Missouri and the Ecoboost performed excellent. No problems in the mountains and and interstate speeds.
Your first post is riddled with nothing but negativity about the ecoboost and you say you didn't post all this dribble to start a conflict!!! That's exactly what you intended to do. Its obvious you got a damaged truck if its noisier, more harsh and not as smooth as a V8. The exact opposite has been reported by almost anyone who owns or has test driven the V6. The reports are always how quiet it is and how much of a better ride it is etc etc. You say all the lights on the dash start blinking every time you hit a pot hole and yet you make it sound like that's just business a usual for the newer trucks. I assure you its not and I assure you not one other owner of a 15-17 model on this forum has experienced anything like that. The push button is just waiting to break, seriously!!!!! Regular turn key ignitions break all the time.
You didn't try to insult anybody yet you end your post by calling us all sheep. You can take your sheep comment and stick it where the sun don't shine. Its clear your another old geezer stuck in his ways unable to accept innovation.
This isn't a discussion, you turned it into a debate and yes you can and have lost the debate
UncleDJ
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These folks are awful toucy when it comes to the ecoboost. lol
JExpedition07
That One Member
No I didn’t, and pretty sure Loki turned it into a debate because he got butt hurt that the OP doesn’t like the V6. Apparently like the majority of the consumer market in these SUVs.
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ExpeditionAndy
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Thanks for the memories guys! I know we've had this argument about 20 times before but it still makes me smile. I'm happy with my EcoBoost. I just turned 8,000 miles today. With the new job I'm putting on 200 miles a week just back and forth to work. This is the beginning of the 2nd week.
Trainmaster
Old School Member
Do you really want to call me names because I prefer one motor over another?
You've got to be kidding.
I wish you guys who are lucky enough to own a new truck with an Ecoboost a long, long happy and troublefree relationship with your motor. It's a well proven engine and it's pretty darn cool. One day I'll probably own one too when they stop building the V-8's.
Geez -- lighten up guys. I'm really sorry for offending that tough guy who wants to beat me up because I prefer eight spark plugs to six.
You've got to be kidding.
I wish you guys who are lucky enough to own a new truck with an Ecoboost a long, long happy and troublefree relationship with your motor. It's a well proven engine and it's pretty darn cool. One day I'll probably own one too when they stop building the V-8's.
Geez -- lighten up guys. I'm really sorry for offending that tough guy who wants to beat me up because I prefer eight spark plugs to six.
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UncleDJ
Active Member
At least we can all agree that SILVER is the best color.
JExpedition07
That One Member
They won’t stop building the V8, in fact the V8 will one day probably be the only gasoline engine available (pony cars). Everything else will be electric and the V6 will be long dead with the others. It’s to each their own which is the conclusion we come to every single time. I’m happy with my 5.4L 164,000 miles currently going strong.
Muddy Bean
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Case in point. Another non owner dogging a newer Expedition. *shaking head. This forum contains about 5% helpful info and the balance is a bit of a waste of server hard drive space in my opinion.
In other news, Motor Trend tested 5 of the full size suvs out there and the Expedition (4th gen) came in first place. I’m a former exclusive Toyota owner who has put 300,000 miles on my last three Toyota’s so I’m sad to say the Sequoia came in dead last. Funny how guys who know a thing or two about vehicles and have driven everything from Rolls Royce’s to G Wagons and everything in between find an Ecoboost Expedition with tons of bells and whistles, a superior truck to the rest of them out there. Once again, this is my very first foray into Fords, so I’m pretty unbiased. But the ecoboost hating is just silly.
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In other news, Motor Trend tested 5 of the full size suvs out there and the Expedition (4th gen) came in first place. I’m a former exclusive Toyota owner who has put 300,000 miles on my last three Toyota’s so I’m sad to say the Sequoia came in dead last. Funny how guys who know a thing or two about vehicles and have driven everything from Rolls Royce’s to G Wagons and everything in between find an Ecoboost Expedition with tons of bells and whistles, a superior truck to the rest of them out there. Once again, this is my very first foray into Fords, so I’m pretty unbiased. But the ecoboost hating is just silly.
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Trainmaster
Old School Member
Did these hammerheads even read my post? Where did I say I hated the Ecoboost? I said it was a cool motor. I said it's quicker. I said it gets better gas mileage.
But it's a six. It vibrates more than an eight. It makes more noise.
That equates with hate?
Duh? Then a guy quotes Motor Trend as a reputable source? A publication that won't review a car unless the manufacturer buys advertising and pays for "editorial consideration"? This thread is bizarre. Why didn't anyone warn me?
I'm sorry dude! I take it all back. Maybe the one I drove was running on five cylinders with a bad carburetor. It sure felt like it. -- just kidding !!!!
Why can't we all just get along?
Wow.
But it's a six. It vibrates more than an eight. It makes more noise.
That equates with hate?
Duh? Then a guy quotes Motor Trend as a reputable source? A publication that won't review a car unless the manufacturer buys advertising and pays for "editorial consideration"? This thread is bizarre. Why didn't anyone warn me?
I'm sorry dude! I take it all back. Maybe the one I drove was running on five cylinders with a bad carburetor. It sure felt like it. -- just kidding !!!!
Why can't we all just get along?
Wow.
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My 17 XLT is equally as smooth as my 2010 5.4 platinum max tow F150, but quieter under ALL load conditions, has more power, gets better mileage and has better air conditioning (including faster heating and cooling seats). Only thing it lacks beside a pickup bed, is decent size door pockets (much smaller bordering on useless on the expedition), and the F150 seats were deeper and more comfortable. If you had a bad experience with a rental, that's all it was, a bad experience, it happens with complex mechanical things. I've yet to come across an owner of the ecoboost expedition who wishes it was the 5.4 instead, which could also be the stupid high costs of these things, no one will admit to making a 50k dollar mistake.
JExpedition07
That One Member
But whoever has the newest redesign always wins that. The 2017 expy lost badly to the Tahoe/Yukon in all those things and was ragged on constantly for being vastly inferior to the GM offering when they had the newest truck in town. Do I think the expy is inferior to the Tahoe? Nope I prefer the more traditional styling of the 17 expy. case in point looks like automotive journalists aren’t all that.
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jeff kushner
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OK...I watched this one long enough. First...Andy, only 8000 miles? You suck sir! LOL
Second....Train, I know that you're a good solid patriot living in the liberal bastion that is LI and we feel for you.....BUT(lol).....having owned two prior 5.4 Expy's.... I actually have to agree with most of what you observed.....yes, my 3.5 makes a bit more noise but considering what generates sound, we would expect it in a higher reving engine of less mass. You will never have to worry about "sucking in an impeller" nor other intake damage unless of course you suffered a sheer anomaly. We all have preferences....one of my bikes, my car and my truck are all either turbo or supercharged.....does my preference show?
I won't be part of an argument that was long ago settled, by peoples wallets.
jeff
Second....Train, I know that you're a good solid patriot living in the liberal bastion that is LI and we feel for you.....BUT(lol).....having owned two prior 5.4 Expy's.... I actually have to agree with most of what you observed.....yes, my 3.5 makes a bit more noise but considering what generates sound, we would expect it in a higher reving engine of less mass. You will never have to worry about "sucking in an impeller" nor other intake damage unless of course you suffered a sheer anomaly. We all have preferences....one of my bikes, my car and my truck are all either turbo or supercharged.....does my preference show?
I won't be part of an argument that was long ago settled, by peoples wallets.
jeff
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