CCD makes ride more comfortable?

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I happened to drive a F150 for a week. Last weekend, I drove it out of town. There was a section of the free way that was not leveled. When the truck went at 70mph, I can feel the continuous vibration of the car. It feel like want to shake your stomach out.

The expy shares the same platform. I’m wondering if the ride will be similar too. And the CCD suspension is only available up to limited trim with 302a. It makes the car almost fully loaded with 70k+ MSRP.

Does anyone have experience on the ride quality comparison with and without CCD?

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I have the ltd with reg dampers, i love the ride but if you can, ccd is the way to go. I test drove a ccd equipped expy and navi but a lot ppl on here have the higher trim so they can give u better long term ride impressions than i could. With mine As compared to a new f150, the expy doesnt shimmy as much and not as firm(4x4, the 4x2 models are way softer than the 4x4 models and my expy). With that said, the base suspenders on 20in wheels is still pretty firm. As a whole its completely comfortable, somewhat absorbent, great body control and not many truck like motions come through(uneven body shakes, extra harshness, skip like motions). My biggest gripes with the regular suspension is its inconsistency, and lack of wheel travel, esp in the rear. Sometimes my truck is as smooth as glass and is smoother than almost everything ive driven b4. Then at times you feel every bump on the road. Its not egregious, but on roads with alot of imperfections its sometimes annoying. As far as wheel travel, on uneven roads, it will shimmy and it gets busy at times, more than i think it should. All told, its still one of the better riding trucks ive driven, but it only met my expectations not exceeded them and some crossovers ride better admittedly. Best way to describe is its like a trucky feeling crossover actually. From my tests of the ccd, its feels to me a lot more absorbent, way more pillowy, and more luxurious, almost boat like. A lot of ppl dont like it because its 2 soft, but i like that plush wafty feel. Where i believe it excels is its bump isolation as compared to the base suspension. I describe it as a very high modern town car as its not quite european feeling. In all, as i feel the reg suspension is a great riding truck, the ccd makes it in par with the last gen of full sized lux sedans. For ref, Ive driven a 13 bmw 750li and the ccd was better. Sorry if its wordy, prolli get crap because i always ramble heavy in here esp in regards to driving characteristics.
 
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Thanks for the thorough input. I probably will go have a test drive with one expy with CCD. This is probably the only reason if I want to go with limited trim instead of XLT.


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Def drive both. I ordered before they were released, so i based my decision on the previous gen expys. The new gen has a way different feel in both std and ccd setups. I initially wanted an xlt but wifey wanted some features that werent available. If i knew how diff the feel was, i wouldnt spent the extra 3k on a 302. I forgot its easier and cheaper to turn off a feature you have than to replace it if you dont have it.
 

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The F150 has an independent front suspension and a solid rear axle. The Expedition has independent front AND rear suspensions. So it is probably not a good comparison. A lot of the vibrations you felt probably came from the twist of the rear axle. We have an XLT with the FX4 suspension package so no CCD. Even with the stiffer shocks, it is a considerably smoother ride than my 4X4 2013 F150 (with upgraded Bilsteins) and my wife's old 2010 Ford Escape.
 

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Anyone with a Platinum or a Limited with CCD care to provide additional thoughts based on your own experience with the ride quality?
 

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Anyone with a Platinum or a Limited with CCD care to provide additional thoughts based on your own experience with the ride quality?

I haven’t driven an XLT or a Limited without the CCD so I have no comparison. But it’s fantastic...smoothest vehicle I ever remember being in. Coming from my F150 it was night and day.
 

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I haven’t driven an XLT or a Limited without the CCD so I have no comparison. But it’s fantastic...smoothest vehicle I ever remember being in. Coming from my F150 it was night and day.

Cool, that’s pretty positive. What other cars are you familiar with as far as ride quality, as a point of comparison other than the F150?


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My wife has a 2014 pathfinder and mine is better. My boss has a BMW 6 Series and it feels like it’s got rocks for wheels. I’m in a Land Cruiser when I go hunting and it’s good, but still rides more like an F150.

The Expi with the CCD feels like it has air suspension. It porpoises a little over speed bumps, but if you take them faster than you think you should, the CCD smoothes them out like you’re not even going over a speed bump. It really is wild how smooth it is. I rarely even notice potholes as more than a slight shimmy.

And the drive modes do an excellent job. It’s a bit pillowy in eco and wallows a bit in turns, but in sport there’s really very little body roll...and I don’t mean for a land yacht, I mean there’s very little body roll period.
 

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I have CCD and my take is that it is one of the best riding suv's I've even been in. Coming from a Mercedes GL550, I wasn't expecting such an upgraded ride. The Merc was a much stiffer ride than the Expedition. But I prefer the smoother ride of the Expedition.

Very, very happy with the Expedition suspension.
 

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I haven't driven anything but the CCD version, but I definitely want to echo the mild porpoising in some scenarios (particularly over the undulating concrete that is not uncommon on some Houston area roads). I actually thought it might be a deal-breaker at one point but over a long-trip I barely noticed it. My wife (her car) doesn't seem to notice it at all.
 
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Ive read the bounce/porpoising in some reviews of the ride. On nav reviews they add that the ride can be harsh at times eith the ccd, but i have not seen this critiqur on expy reviews. As far as the base suspension, the bobbing on pavement isnt a thing, but it cam get choppy on rippled pavement. Two extremes with each suspension i see.
 

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We've got a few Navi's on here, maybe they can comment...
 

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I have a Navi but I haven’t driven any of the non-ccd versions. All I can say is my ride is amazing, easily the best riding vehicle I’ve ever owned but I came from a 13 year old Subaru that rode like a penny father bike into a Navigator so I am not a good person to weigh in on this.
 

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I came from a 12 4Runner then 15 Tahoe with magnetic ride / then a 17 Tahoe without magnetic / then 1500 miles on loan 18 Tahoe z71 now a 18 limited expedition with ccd - this ride is the best - you just have to know a few conditions and adjust it - but 90 percent normal or eco are amazing - need to go to sport for certain terrain

I test drive the LX570 Lexus - just as good but 30k more - Infiniti was crap
 

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CCD makes a big difference. I wish I could toggle a setting to choose sport or comfort without changing the engine and transmission dynamics too. I love my f150 but hate it how it rides over expansion joints. My platinum max is smooth all the time.
 

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I love the cdd, but would like to have the sport ride with the normal transmission shifts.
 

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I love the cdd, but would like to have the sport ride with the normal transmission shifts.
I completely agree. I’ve used the excite mode a few times on the road and it’s wonderful if you are going hard on acceleration and braking or if you are on forest service roads but regular driving it’s not very fun. There are times I’d like a stiffer suspension and less aggressive shifting and also times I’d like softer suspension and better shifting for the forest service roads.
 

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Definitely suggest test driving with and without. I decided to get CCD after test driving. I drove both versions over a railroad crossing and down a partially paved road. The difference between to two suspensions immediately sold me on the CCD. If you intend to keep your truck for many years/miles, I believe the CCD will extend the useful life of the suspension components and keep the truck “tight” over miles of use.
Lastly, I recently towed my boat. Setting tow mode, I believe the suspension tightened up which benefitted my towing experience.
 
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