Door Automatic Unlocking

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Is there a way to change the door unlock so they unlock when shifting into park or shutting off the engine as opposed to opening the driver's door?
 

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Is there a way to change the door unlock so they unlock when shifting into park or shutting off the engine as opposed to opening the driver's door?


My 2015 Expedition Limited 4x4 will only unlock all the doors if the LF door is opened. I do not like this feature and would prefer that the doors unlock when I placed the transmission shifter in park.

I often wonder if Ford surveys its customers to see what features they want?
 

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My 2015 Expedition Limited 4x4 will only unlock all the doors if the LF door is opened. I do not like this feature and would prefer that the doors unlock when I placed the transmission shifter in park.

I often wonder if Ford surveys its customers to see what features they want?
I complain about this often that I really don't think the manufacturers have a very big clue as to what people want. And most people are way too easy going and don't really know what they want until they're living with the vehicle. And when they are surveyed they forget about all the little important things like this.
I've had a lot of Lincoln Town Cars and those you can change and the instructions are in the owner's manual.
 

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I've had a lot of Lincoln Town Cars and those you can change and the instructions are in the owner's manual.
My wife's Pathfinder lets you select if the doors should unlock when you shift into park, when you turn the engine off, or when you open the door. But I promise 98% of the folks that drive Pathfinders don't know/care that's an adjustable option.

Things like that are nice features but I don't know that they're worth the development and implementation costs for the handful of owners that will know they're there AND care to change it. Plus, something like that is not a go-or-no-go issue when you're buying the vehicle. Usually.
 

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on ours i have them set to all unlock with one click on fob,
OR if i shut off vehicle and open a door they all unlock
if i leave engine on and just open drivers door, only it will unlock, this also works when i stop and engine is ON running and a passenger opens their door, then only that door unlocks.
funny thing is if i shut engine off after passenger opens door and closes it..the others remain locked, unless i open driver door.
 

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i just went out and double checked. if i have engine running and shut it off the doors do click to unlock when i open the driver door
not sure if they always do this,



carjackers, thats a wild bunch..i have read many reports if the door is locked, they just shoot you and break it, its pretty violent crime
unless they are just stealing the car.
neighbor in florida had his jacked as he pulled into his driveway, it was very violent and bloody. they caught the guys but it didnt help the neighbor much as he was pretty much a veggie after wards. after that we started paying attention to who is behind us and who is in our zone when we park anywhere.
these turds followed him home from the hospital where his wife had just given birth. They abandoned the car a few miles away, the police said because the amount of blood and pieces of skull probably made it not worth keeping .
 
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Not being able to change things like that is certainly a deal-breaker for me but I'm an opinionated bastard.
I have always thought it was stupid for auto door locks to unlock when you put it in park because you pull into the parking garage and put your car into park and then you are vulnerable to someone opening your door. If they're going to make them automatic it should be once you turn off the car or take the key out of the ignition. I cannot stand however once that stay locked because then you try to get out or anything but a Ford and you're locked inside. Funny how Ford has always had the front doors open even when they're locked when you pull the handle that GM's never do. This is something they won't get away from apparently. Nothing bothers me more than to be inside a car and try to open the door and it be locked then I have to either hit the button or flip the lever and then open it again.
 

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Not being able to change things like that is certainly a deal-breaker for me but I'm an opinionated bastard.
I have always thought it was stupid for auto door locks to unlock when you put it in park because you pull into the parking garage and put your car into park and then you are vulnerable to someone opening your door. If they're going to make them automatic it should be once you turn off the car or take the key out of the ignition. I cannot stand however once that stay locked because then you try to get out or anything but a Ford and you're locked inside. Funny how Ford has always had the front doors open even when they're locked when you pull the handle that GM's never do. This is something they won't get away from apparently. Nothing bothers me more than to be inside a car and try to open the door and it be locked then I have to either hit the button or flip the lever and then open it again.

They are only locked from the outside. When it is in park, you can open any door from the inside.

The times I’ve been bothered by this are when my husband is driving, I’m riding shotgun, he puts it in park to drop me and the kids off but keeps the engine running. I hop out and then go to open one of the rear doors to get the kids out and their doors are locked on the outside. I yell at husband to hit unlock and then all is good. I wish that if any door was opened from the inside, all of the other doors would unlock with the engine running.
 

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Fords that lock doors in park or whatever, almost always lock and unlock them all at the same time.
Ford front doors can be opened from inside from just opening the regular way whether they are locked on outside or not. GM doors almost always will not open from inside unless they are in unlocked position. Very ANNOYING. I'm a GM guy or used to be for all my life....not sure I'm an anything guy now...I might be a"transguy" BUT GM doors are enough to make you want to own a Ford.
Same with separate keys for ignition and trunk like they used to do.
They finally stopped that! Not they need to get with the program on door locks!
 

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They are only locked from the outside. When it is in park, you can open any door from the inside.

The times I’ve been bothered by this are when my husband is driving, I’m riding shotgun, he puts it in park to drop me and the kids off but keeps the engine running. I hop out and then go to open one of the rear doors to get the kids out and their doors are locked on the outside. I yell at husband to hit unlock and then all is good. I wish that if any door was opened from the inside, all of the other doors would unlock with the engine running.

Is there not a button to unlock all doors on the passenger side?
 
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I think I can override the default action with a wiring change. I have done this on my other Lincoln vehicles. I was hoping the factory changed this, but apparently not. The wiring change is more complex in these SUVs than in my prior Lincolns.
 

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I think I can override the default action with a wiring change. I have done this on my other Lincoln vehicles. I was hoping the factory changed this, but apparently not. The wiring change is more complex in these SUVs than in my prior Lincolns.
What's wrong with the Lincoln Factory setup that you have to do a wiring change?
 
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Those in the back seat want to get out before I open my door and can't. I don't have young kids, so that isn't an issue. I would like the doors to unlock when shifting into park or the engine being turned off.

On a side note, because of the auto stop/start, I have been getting into the habit of shutting the car off rather than shifting into park and then shutting the car off. This prevents the unnecessary restart triggered by shifting into park.
 

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Those in the back seat want to get out before I open my door and can't. I don't have young kids, so that isn't an issue. I would like the doors to unlock when shifting into park or the engine being turned off.

On a side note, because of the auto stop/start, I have been getting into the habit of shutting the car off rather than shifting into park and then shutting the car off. This prevents the unnecessary restart triggered by shifting into park.


I have known quite a few cars at when dropping off the kids and stuff the doors will be locked because I'm in gear and I don't want to put it back into park to unlock the doors so I just reach down and hit the unlock button when I pull up. When I first get a car I forget a few times but then it becomes second nature. I've driven limos for 25 years and the first thing I was told by the first guy who ever took me for a ride in a limo when I was looking to buy one was every time you open the door to get out on a limo you hit the door lock button and roll the window down a few inches. If you do not you will soon find yourself either walking back around all the way 35 feet to your door to hit the door lock buttons because the back door was locked when you tried to let the people out and you'll feel stupid or you'll end up with empty vehicle with the keys locked inside of it.. it did get better with the 98s since those will automatically unlock the doors if you hit the door locks with the door open but people still managed to screw up. Plus you're not always driving Lincoln Town Cars. There's Chryslers, and SUVs.
I was just confused when you mentioned you did a wiring change on your Lincoln to change the factory set up. If I remember correctly all of my Lincoln's lock the doors when I shift out of park and unlock when I go back to park until I change it to turn that off.
I can't figure out what you're saying about the auto start and stop because I refuse to have one of those cars unless I can turn it off. I'm a cheapskate though so I won't have to worry about those for another 8 or 10 years then they will have all the things figured out on how to bypass the annoying features.
 

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I can't figure out what you're saying about the auto start and stop because I refuse to have one of those cars unless I can turn it off. I'm a cheapskate though so I won't have to worry about those for another 8 or 10 years then they will have all the things figured out on how to bypass the annoying features.

When you get to your final destination and come to a stop, the ASS will shut the engine down. If you shift into park, it will fire back up...but you’re about to turn off the vehicle because you’re at your destination. So when you shifted to park, you turned the vehicle on just to have to turn it off again.

Instead, if you just come to a stop and then press the ignition button, the vehicle will stay shut off and shift itself into park thus eliminating an extra start cycle.
 

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When you get to your final destination and come to a stop, the ASS will shut the engine down. If you shift into park, it will fire back up...but you’re about to turn off the vehicle because you’re at your destination. So when you shifted to park, you turned the vehicle on just to have to turn it off again.

Instead, if you just come to a stop and then press the ignition button, the vehicle will stay shut off and shift itself into park thus eliminating an extra start cycle.
Sounds very smart to stop extra wear and tear on starter etc. Stupid new car designs.
 
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Basically, I want the doors to unlock when I shut off the engine as opposed to opening the driver's door which is the factory setup. To do this, I will need a small timing circuit that electronically pushes the unlock button on the door when the engine shuts down. The circuits are readily available for about $15. The hardest part of the whole job is removing the door panel to access the unlock wire since it only goes to the door module and feeding the wire into the vehicle. I have done this on other Lincolns I have owned. The difference is on those vehicles the unlock wire comes out of the door so the door doesn't have to be taken apart.

The switch on the door grounds the unlock wire when it is pressed which tells the door module to send a communication signal to the body control module to unlock the doors.

Anyone removed a front door panel on their vehicle?

I want to complete this before I get the front side windows tinted so I don't risk damaging the tint when removing the door panel (not likely, but possible).
 

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I think the easier option would be to just disable the auto-stop/start or get in the habit of pushing the button to turn it off. Then when you shift into park, the rear doors will be able to be opened from the inside. If I don’t remember to disable the auto-stop/start when I start the car, the first stop sign or stop light reminds me to do it.
 
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