Hi all! Coming up on 47k for my 2017 with 20" wheel/tire package and its time to replace the rubber. Had my heart set on General Grabber A/TX (275/55R20) but guy from Tire Rack warned me against them due to "truck metric" vs. "passenger metric". With that said, he went on to recommend Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S, Firestone Destination A/T2, and Kumho Road Venture AT51. I'm a total novice when it comes to tire buying so A. I'm looking to add some more knowledge as I do my research and B. looking for reviews on any of the tires above or recommendations you may have for replacement tires. Looking for decent off-road capability, competent in snow/wet driving, and something that looks good. Other than that, I'm pretty open to any and all suggestions. Thanks in advance!
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You mean he recommended not going to the LT tire?
I upgraded our 15 and now our 17 to LT tires as soon as the tread was close to being needed to be replaced.
I think the Tow package equipped 4x4’s should have come with them from the factory. The stiffer sidewall in general seems to improve the handling.
There is A LOT of discussion on here about proper pressures to run in the LT tires, because the factory level of 35 is NOT enough.
About 2K ago, I put the Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo3’s on ours. Love them. SO much better grip than stock in the wet. I also, put taller, because I added the 3/2 lift at the same time.
I think you would be happy with the Grabber ATX’s if you use the Expy to pull any weight, or routinely have it loaded down.
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JExpedition07
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Michelin is what I always recommend. I just ordered 4 new Bridgestone Duellers for my 2007, I would feel more comfortable with Michelins but couldn’t quite swing them currently.
I am the opposite. Never been a fan of the Michelin Truck/SUV tires. There are MANY who swear by them though, but they are too expensive in my opinion also.
J, What is your take on the LT vs P tire debate?
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JExpedition07
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My current worn down Michelin’s are P tires, they ride great and are very quiet. Haven’t had any issue with them towing the boat. However winter is coming and tread is thin. The new Bridgestone tires I ordered are LT tires. It seemed there were more LT options than passenger rated.
Eric Mowrer
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The Michelin LTX M/S LT276/65/18 tires on my 2013 ran 110k miles and still had some life left. Expedition definitely towed better with the LT tires.
I’ve had 4 Expeds since 2000 and all of them had the P series tires replaced with LT. No problem.
I’ve had 4 Expeds since 2000 and all of them had the P series tires replaced with LT. No problem.
lots of good tires, 2 of my favorites on the Expy
are the Kumho's
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kumho-Ro...-985-16dcc76045f924&athancid=null&athena=true
and Falken Wildpeak AT3W
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Falken-W...MI5Kbfpuqc5QIVFIiGCh3QUAdrEAAYAiAAEgKkz_D_BwE
I've had good luck with TireBuyer and various rebates
I go with E rated LT tires to get the best tread depth for SNOW
(coming soon to a road near me)
are the Kumho's
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kumho-Ro...-985-16dcc76045f924&athancid=null&athena=true
and Falken Wildpeak AT3W
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Falken-W...MI5Kbfpuqc5QIVFIiGCh3QUAdrEAAYAiAAEgKkz_D_BwE
I've had good luck with TireBuyer and various rebates
I go with E rated LT tires to get the best tread depth for SNOW
(coming soon to a road near me)
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Wild Peaks are getting great reviews lately! Lots of the guys that tow, and see off road are loving them.
Heck, the Rubicon version of the Gladiator are coming with them...
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More than once have had people stop and gawk at my Wildpeaks and make favorable comments. They also work well on my 2003 Expy.
Ok. I'm quoting myself. The epitome of pathetic I guess.
Falken Wildpeak AT3W light truck E rated version is 18/32" tread vs 14/32" passenger
Weight goes from 47 pounds to 60 (I don't care). 18/32" is a LOTTA tread depth
Falken has another tire RUBITREK … looks like AT3W, https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/falken-rubitrek-at-vs-wildpeak-at3w.608946/ "only at select dealers" currently ??????
I googled this and it looks like Kumho has a manufacturing plant in Macon Georgia
http://www.kumhotireusa.com/about-u...-first-us-manufacturing-facility-in-macon,-ga
FALKEN has a manufacturing plant in Buffalo NY.
not sure if Wildpeaks made there but still good ...
https://www.falkentire.com/news-eve...duction-first-north-american-made-falken-tire
BUY AMERICAN WHERE POSSIBLE
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Kjhawkeye1
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I went with Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT and like them. They look aggressive but are quiet. Just mated them up with Raptor wheels.
Dr0idattack
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Running with Wildpeaks and love them.
I have Falken AT3 Wilpeaks. I love them! Very heavy sturdy tire with a good mileage warranty. They are Extreme weather rated so they are my favorite tire at the moment, especially for the price!
After wearing in a little they are noisy but not loud. They also ride quite a bit rougher than the highway tires that came off our truck, but that's fine by me.
My second favorite tire is the Hankook RF10. Had a set on my Jeep, and Dodge truck. Super quiet and smooth riding truck tire. Good offroad traction that wore great! There was a significant ride quality improvement going from my old worn out highway tires to the hankooks.
Last choice is Kumho AT51, good tire with an excellent tread warranty. Great offroad traction. Smooth riding tire that wore good for me and my mom who has them on her 3/4 ton dodge diesel.
After wearing in a little they are noisy but not loud. They also ride quite a bit rougher than the highway tires that came off our truck, but that's fine by me.
My second favorite tire is the Hankook RF10. Had a set on my Jeep, and Dodge truck. Super quiet and smooth riding truck tire. Good offroad traction that wore great! There was a significant ride quality improvement going from my old worn out highway tires to the hankooks.
Last choice is Kumho AT51, good tire with an excellent tread warranty. Great offroad traction. Smooth riding tire that wore good for me and my mom who has them on her 3/4 ton dodge diesel.
I am more than pleased with my Wildpeaks. They are made in the Philippines. I will be putting them on my Silverado when it comes time to replace my Geolandars.
I am also debating putting the Wildpeak HTs on the Highlander once the Geolandar G055s go but I have probably 4 more years on them. They’ll dry rot before the tread depth is gone.
I am also debating putting the Wildpeak HTs on the Highlander once the Geolandar G055s go but I have probably 4 more years on them. They’ll dry rot before the tread depth is gone.
Scott Carden
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Yes the Michelin’s are king. Also in price. I found that Walmart online has the best tire price, headache free warranty and let’s face it Walmart’s are everywhere. Goodyear makes a great tire as well. I was never a fan of bridgestones but I run the HP dueler on my king ranch in 20” and they are wearing like iron. And I am not nice to them at all. Tire metrics is a funny topic used to sell you expensive tires mostly. Get the size for your truck with the proper load rating Witch the general grabber is as it’s a truck tire and you will be be fine. I used grabbers on a truck I had and they wear good and get good traction for the price.
plumcolr
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I'd go with LT tires. The stiffer side walls make a noticeable difference in handling. Maybe you can't go around corners with them faster but they feel much more stable. Also in strong crosswinds.
I have been looking at the Pirelli Scorpion All-Terrain Plus for my upcoming tire purchase. They have really good reviews and the price is pretty reasonable.
The only downside is to get LT tires you have to move up in size to 285/55/20; throws off speedo by about 0.05%. But I actually like the idea of getting about .5" extra width on the ground, and the speedo can be corrected pretty quickly through ForScan
The only downside is to get LT tires you have to move up in size to 285/55/20; throws off speedo by about 0.05%. But I actually like the idea of getting about .5" extra width on the ground, and the speedo can be corrected pretty quickly through ForScan
My experience. Stock these speedo are off already. You will actually be more accurate with that slight increase.
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Commodore
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I've been using the Firestone Destination LE2s exclusively on the SUVs I own over the last decade + (Yukon XL and two Explorers). I love them: they ride nicely and they handle great in rain and snow. I have Hankook on my 2017 Expedition Limited as those were the stock. I only have 36K on it, so I'm not ready to replace them yet. Recommend you review Consumer Reports on the tires you are considering. Michelins have a great rep but you pay a lot more for them. CR can show you that you can get tires with similar test scores for significantly lower costs, which adds up when you multiply that cost difference by 4!
I had a couple pairs of Michelins and they rode good enough, and wore pretty good.
My only complaint with the Michelin is, they dry rot before they wear out. My tires were 4 years old and looked like they were easily 10+ years old due to all the cracking and dry rot. My dad and uncle have had the same issue as me.
My only complaint with the Michelin is, they dry rot before they wear out. My tires were 4 years old and looked like they were easily 10+ years old due to all the cracking and dry rot. My dad and uncle have had the same issue as me.
ManUpOrShutUp
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My Expedition came with a brand new set of Pirelli Scorpion STRs. It was a great tire in the snow, but they were toast at ~35K or so. I replaced them with Michelin LTX (P) tires. Those tires didn't do great on my Mountaineer in the snow, but I thought the much larger Expedition EL would fare better with them. Meh. Not really. On an absolute scale, they're fair. Coming from the Pirellis though, their snow performance sucks by comparison. That said, their treadwear has been far better. I think I've got about 34K on them now and they've got about 6/32 left. Well, the 2 that didn't blow out do anyway. I'm not sure what I will go with next time, but as I have started hauling/towing fairly often I would probably go with an LT tire. I've wished for the ability to air up more when I have 1,200 lbs in the truck more than once.
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