What was best year of 5.4?
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JExpedition07
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My opinion is the best year for the 5.4 is 2014, had a few upgrades over time and power was up to 320 hp and 390 lb ft on E-85. The 5.0 oblong cylinder problem was only in the first year 2011 trucks, any 5.0 after 2011 won’t have that tick. I’ve yet to hear of any engines blowing up due to the oblong cylinder thing anyway, lots of 2011 trucks still running around over 200k with that tick.
My friend has a 2011 XLT 5.5’ Bed F-150 with the 5.0, his has been good. There are pros and cons to the F-150. One thing I notice is my Expedition EL with the 5.4 Triton and 3.73s has more low end grunt than his 5.0 F-150 5.5’. The Expedition EL also feels more solid to me, I’d attribute this to the extra curb weight. The F-150 has more power once you rev up no contest, the 5.0 can breath. Also the bed is nice to put things in.
My friend has a 2011 XLT 5.5’ Bed F-150 with the 5.0, his has been good. There are pros and cons to the F-150. One thing I notice is my Expedition EL with the 5.4 Triton and 3.73s has more low end grunt than his 5.0 F-150 5.5’. The Expedition EL also feels more solid to me, I’d attribute this to the extra curb weight. The F-150 has more power once you rev up no contest, the 5.0 can breath. Also the bed is nice to put things in.
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JExpedition07
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I also prefer the Expeditions steering wheel to the 150. But I do love the swoop in the F-150 doors.
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JonSnow
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Which years Navigator had the 32V without cam phasers?
Aspen03
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Prior to 2005, just like the expeditions.
The navi calls for premium fuel in that 32v so keep that in mind if you do much driving. Around here that's closing in on $85 a tank.
The navi calls for premium fuel in that 32v so keep that in mind if you do much driving. Around here that's closing in on $85 a tank.
Yes but most run fine on midgrade.
Some are fine with no pinging on regular.
The first 2 years on Navi 98and 99 were 5.4 2 valve or what they called standard or 16 valve back then.
2000 went to 32v or 4 valve per cyl.
We hated that because they were harder to work on.
2004 last year or standard 5.4.
2005 has 3v with phasers. 2006 got ZF 6 sp trans which was a BMW trans.
I specifically bought my 03 because I only wanted an 03 or 04 so I could have flat rear floor and no cam phasers and a 4r75w trans.
Selling it if anyone interested.
Near mint cond. ZERO rust. Rockers perfect! 119k
Black with black leather.
I assume there is a for sale section on here but never really looked. I should add it.
jeff kushner
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Respect for the above opinions, probably based on actual facts.....but my '99 was my fav by far of the two I personally owned. It had a very slow weep on the drivers side rear head but it held as long as I had it.
Funny, I thought I might have an issue moving to the V6 and yes, I do miss the 8-stroke heartbeat.....you know what I mean. The 6 is fine, a great engine that I really like but it's a bit louder and it's almost like a child where the 8 is the grownup. I know, strange analogy but its 5am...
jeff
Funny, I thought I might have an issue moving to the V6 and yes, I do miss the 8-stroke heartbeat.....you know what I mean. The 6 is fine, a great engine that I really like but it's a bit louder and it's almost like a child where the 8 is the grownup. I know, strange analogy but its 5am...
jeff
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My Rig. 2000 EB 4x4 5.4L
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Clemson82
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My vote is also for the 2014. Not just because I own one, but because it was the last year of the V8.
03 Navigator 119850 miles currently. Southern auto all its life. Not rusty! 4wd
Located in Dayton, OH area.
6200.00
05+, while some people like to stick in the past with the 2V motors, which i had before as well, the 3V motors just are built better, if you have phaser problems, get the revised phasers from ford and be happy, they fix all the phaser issues... and the 3V engines will shred the 2V in HP, Torque, and efficiency. There is a youtube video that details changing the cam phasers out to the revised versions in like an hour in your back yard, look it up, its fricking simple.
What have i run?
96 Mustang GT 2V 4.6, first year of the 4.6 2V, tons of problems, with cooling, bad flowing heads, undersized runners, all kinda shit. Radiator was also carried over from the 95 5.0 version, and was not able to cool a aluminum 4.6 adequately.
03 Mustang GT 2V 4.6, it was fun, many problems with the 2V fixed with the PI heads, decent power but nothing to write home, meh....
04 Mustang Cobra 4V 4.6, GOWD it was evil, and ran good once i rebuilt it, bought it as salvage. T-Boned in a parking lot though 9 months after the new engine, sold to another cobra dude he pulled my fresh engine for use in his.
07 Mustang GT 4.6L 3V, makes the 03 seem like a rock stuck in pudding, crazy powerfull especially in the 4000-6000 range under WOT, pulls like a monster, good ole VCT. Feels very reminescent of the 04 cobra, just without the blower.
05 Ford Expedition, 3V 5.4 with 4R75, great torque and power, and 210,000 on the clock, no problems other then previous owner poped the tranny, but thats how i got it cheap, and put in a rebuilt trans for 1300 bucks OTD, solid.
09 Ford Expedition, 3V 5.4 with 6 speed, same great torque and power as the 05, but better gearing, and a little more peppy because of it.
Yeah i think i have some modular and 3V experience.....
What have i run?
96 Mustang GT 2V 4.6, first year of the 4.6 2V, tons of problems, with cooling, bad flowing heads, undersized runners, all kinda shit. Radiator was also carried over from the 95 5.0 version, and was not able to cool a aluminum 4.6 adequately.
03 Mustang GT 2V 4.6, it was fun, many problems with the 2V fixed with the PI heads, decent power but nothing to write home, meh....
04 Mustang Cobra 4V 4.6, GOWD it was evil, and ran good once i rebuilt it, bought it as salvage. T-Boned in a parking lot though 9 months after the new engine, sold to another cobra dude he pulled my fresh engine for use in his.
07 Mustang GT 4.6L 3V, makes the 03 seem like a rock stuck in pudding, crazy powerfull especially in the 4000-6000 range under WOT, pulls like a monster, good ole VCT. Feels very reminescent of the 04 cobra, just without the blower.
05 Ford Expedition, 3V 5.4 with 4R75, great torque and power, and 210,000 on the clock, no problems other then previous owner poped the tranny, but thats how i got it cheap, and put in a rebuilt trans for 1300 bucks OTD, solid.
09 Ford Expedition, 3V 5.4 with 6 speed, same great torque and power as the 05, but better gearing, and a little more peppy because of it.
Yeah i think i have some modular and 3V experience.....
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ExplorerTom
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I’m a recent 2V to 3V convert. I must say, so far, the 3V in my 2014 is smooth, quiet, and powerful.
More power than 2v but not than the 32v in Navigators.
Just had a guy come by in a 08 or so expi 2 days ago. It was doing a little bit of the diesel sound but no too bad yet..
My 03 Navi and all my 4.6s cannot be heard running.
I stay away from the 3v ones.
Just almost always going to be more money to keep a 3v running in the long haul vs a 2v.
You may luck out here or there and you may have bad luck with a2v but do it 200 times and the numbers don't lie.
I understand that some people will not consider older cars.
I get a kick out of old but near perfect condition ones and would much rather have a pristine 2000 than an average or even pristine 2014.
JExpedition07
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The 5.4L 3V is more powerful than the 32V engine in the older Navigators thanks to the variable cam timing.
Yes by a little bit...not sure which one feels more powerful with weight and trans and gearing though.
The 03-04 Navigators are very peppy and people call them hot rod lincolns.
Compared to a 2v, like the other poster did, the 3v is way more powerful but compared to the 32v, not much difference.
The hp is the same. Torque is 10 more for the 3v.
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Boostedbus
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I’ve got a 2v in my 08 Utility Van that has 120,000 super hard miles on it. She weighs in at just under 10,000 lbs. and has carried that weight since I brought her home from the dealer brand new. I change the oil religiously but also run the snot out of it religiously..... I’ve got a extremely heavy foot. So far it’s been an amazingly tough engine and always gets it done. It’s got 4.10 gears also so it knows RPM’s. Not sure a 3v would hold up to the torture as well. I don’t think Ford even offered the 3v in a E350 Super Duty.....2v tough!
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My Rig. 2000 EB 4x4 5.4L
If I didn’t want a pickup I’d take her off your hands. Already have 2 SUV’s.
She’s a beauty!
It is a very nice vehicle and being a 2003 makes it kind of unbelievably nice. It's not perfect and needs a few little things address but just to find one that looks that decent with near-perfect carpet, seats, no rust. Is hard to do.
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