Cabin Filter?

[nalchemist]

Greetings all from a new member. Thanks for having me.

My 2015 expedition el ltd seems not to have a cabin filter, yet the same year f150 does.

I even removed the glove box to inspect where they show it on the F150 and it is clearly not there.

It also seems that they put cabin filters in later expeditions. Is it that it took ford longer to reengineer the air system in the expedition as it is much larger than the 150 cabin?

Thoughts on why this would be?

Any suggestions how to add one? My wife and son have terrible pollen allergies

Thanks for taking the time guys!

Best

Mark

 

[dl2011ms3]

I have a 2016 and there is not a cabin air filter. Just a screen for the blower. I verified with the dealer that my model didn't come with one.

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[WEDGE]

Correct, Expeditions didn't get cabin filters until the 2018 model year

 

[Menard LaDouche]

There are some mods posted that show how the black box in the air system (behind the glove box) has had a rectangular hole cut in it and then a custom filter inserted. Not sure if it was this forum or a similar one. Looks pretty good. I wish this mod would be more popular so I can see how 10 people do it, so I can learn from their mistakes... haha. A cabin filter would be great, because my '11 model collects dust, more so on dirt roads.

 

[mustangthrall]

I just bought my 2012 Expedition Limited a few days ago and want to do the same thing... I know the Navigators have the cabin filter, has anyone adapted it to fit? I wonder how different the HVAC systems are since they are so similar in other ways.

 

[07navi]

I just bought my 2012 Expedition Limited a few days ago and want to do the same thing... I know the Navigators have the cabin filter, has anyone adapted it to fit? I wonder how different the HVAC systems are since they are so similar in other ways.

I don't think anything had them until 2018

 

[Menard LaDouche]

Here is a Ford car that someone upgraded with a cabin filter, DIY. I saw a write-up for an Expedition somewhere, a couple years ago. If somebody could cut up their car, and let us know how it worked out, it would be appreciated.

https://www.myfordfreestyle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8988

 

[Menard LaDouche]

Message below.

 

[Menard LaDouche]

Good diagrams of the HVAC system at Silver State Ford Parts. I found this diagram.

Looks like putting a sock over #9 (screen) is the easiest solution. Does anyone know where this is? I am thinking engine compartment, to allow the *cough* fresh air to enter, but I haven't really figured this out. I sure don't see an intake.

 

[Flight-ER-Doc]

I have a 2016 and there is not a cabin air filter. Just a screen for the blower. I verified with the dealer that my model didn't come with one.

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I did have a dealer try and charge me for replacing it, once....

I thanked them, and asked them to show me where it is....they took it off the bill.

 

[07navi]

I did have a dealer try and charge me for replacing it, once....

I thanked them, and asked them to show me where it is....they took it off the bill.

That's why I hate garages/shops.

 

[The Wiped Cam]

Good diagrams of the HVAC system at Silver State Ford Parts. I found this diagram.

Looks like putting a sock over #9 (screen) is the easiest solution. Does anyone know where this is? I am thinking engine compartment, to allow the *cough* fresh air to enter, but I haven't really figured this out. I sure don't see an intake.

View attachment 36846

That's the rear aux hvac unit. It lives behind the right rear quarter panel interior trim.

 

[Menard LaDouche]

Ok. So where is the air intake? Or where else can a filter be adapted?

 

[The Wiped Cam]

Ok. So where is the air intake? Or where else can a filter be adapted?

Number 1 on the pic you posted is the air intake. it looks like this from the other side:



The image above doesnt show the screen attachment in front of the blower intake.

Number 9 below is the screen I'm talking about:




You can possibly fashion a cabin filter and stick it in place of the said screen, but I'm not sure if the rear blower motor is rated for that kind of restriction. A simple test with an ammeter can reveal the capabilities of that blower though.


ps: post edited, because i posted some factually wrong info.

 

[ExplorerTom]

On my 2012 Escape, you remove part of the cowl by the windshield wiper and that’s where the filter goes. Strange that an Escape has a filter, but an Expedition doesn’t.

 

[Menard LaDouche]

I mean, where is it on the car? Not the picture. I can't figure out how the air gets from the outside to the inside, and need to stuff a dirty sock in the hole to stop the dust from filling my interior.

 

[Trainmaster]

Wiped, where do you get those color part illustrations? I've seen them for years and have no idea where they come from.

 

[The Wiped Cam]

Wiped, where do you get those color part illustrations? I've seen them for years and have no idea where they come from.

There's a super cheap way, and then there's an expensive way through Helm Inc. Go the cheaper way by looking up this on ebay: [insert model year] Expedition Service Manual

You will then be presented with a bunch of options. Go with the result that has a cd with Ford logo on it. Thereafter follow the following sample pictorial:

I mean, where is it on the car? Not the picture. I can't figure out how the air gets from the outside to the inside, and need to stuff a dirty sock in the hole to stop the dust from filling my interior.

 

[Trainmaster]

Cam, a million thanks. Solved a ten year mystery for me. I have the Ford disks but never found the part component illustrations on them. Guess I didn't look hard enough.

 

[Menard LaDouche]

Maybe the unit in the back blows air around the back, and the unit in the front blows air around the front. But how does the air get into the car in the first place? Thats the spot that needs a dust stopper.