Couple of general questions?

[Kwood1213]

The wife and i are looking at getting an expedition max, and I have a few questions.
I am looking for one with the HD tow package, and an 8 seater. Will probably do the rough country lift too, unless there's a better lift to go with that is in the same pricing ballpark.
The Ford gold certified warranty, does it cover the cam phasers issue, and the transmission issue? Is it worth specifically buying a vehicle that has this warranty, or not?
In between year models 19-22, is there one year that is better than the others? It seems in 22 some interior changes were made, but were there any drive train changes?
In 22 they did away with the automatic running boards, is there a reason for that? I know it's just something to fail, but we want them, so does that mean we would need to go aftermarket for the steps if we get a 22?

Is there a reason a 20 platinum is the same price as a 22 limited with the same amount of miles? What all does the platinum entail that a limited doesn't?

I think that is most of my questions I have, for now.
Thanks for the help in advance.

 

[Fastcar]

Based on what I have read it would seem that the cam phaser issue has not been much of an issue in MY 2020 and beyond. Of course there may be some but.......

 

[VBreithaupt]

I know only the premiumcare covers it in Fords extended warranty packages. I think there were less issues with 20's on with cam phasers. Still seem to have waste gate rattle, and some transmission issues. I bought the extended warranty and have no issues with cam phasers but because of shifting issues have had in twice for transmission work. 22 they did delete some options due to chip shortage post covid. I have automatic running boards and they take maintenance. I am out on dirt roads and they constantly need to be cleaned and oiled. If you are on dirt alot you may want to go with fixed boards. HD tow package is must. Only option that the platinum had that I would have liked is higher HP engine rating, different color interiors, same body paint color on some of the trim.

 

[AJ82]

In 22 they did away with the automatic running boards, is there a reason for that? I know it's just something to fail, but we want them, so does that mean we would need to go aftermarket for the steps if we get a 22?

The 22 refresh did not remove the power running boards. They are available on all trims above the base Limited.

 

[Kwood1213]

The 22 refresh did not remove the power running boards. They are available on all trims above the base Limited.

Hmmm, interesting. I haven't seen a 22 with the power running boards.

 

[dlcorbett]

Youre thinking of the limited with the 20in wheels, those are limited 301 which does not have power running boards. Also, the xlt with special appearance pkg looks exactly like the limited 301, the only difference is the led taillights and chrome trim for the roof rails, grille and fog lights. The limiteds that are 302 (which have 22in wheels) and up all have power running boards to include the stealth pkgs.

 

[AJ82]

Hmmm, interesting. I haven't seen a 22 with the power running boards.

Here is the 2022 order guide. It lists what is in each trim level and package. A Google search will bring up the other order guides for any years you are interested in.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2022/expedition/pdf/22MY-Expedition-Order-Guide.pdf

 

[Kwood1213]

Here is the 2022 order guide. It lists what is in each trim level and package. A Google search will bring up the other order guides for any years you are interested in.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2022/expedition/pdf/22MY-Expedition-Order-Guide.pdf

Ahh, I see that now, thank you. It seems like that 302 package is a hefty price jump too in the used vehicles category.

 

[Kwood1213]

So my main question that really remains is, would you buy a vehicle sight unseen if it has the gold certified warranty?

 

[Fastcar]

So my main question that really remains is, would you buy a vehicle sight unseen if it has the gold certified warranty?

Absolutely no!!! No friggin' way! There are way too many people that will screw ya. Warranties can be made up to look real. How far away from you is it? If you have to have it hop on a plane see it yourself and buy it on the spot and drive it home. I've done that a bunch of times when I was playing with Vettes. The real good dealer will pick up at the airport.

 

[Samantha1]

I can't say that I would buy any used vehicle sight unseen.

 

[Kwood1213]

Absolutely no!!! No friggin' way! There are way too many people that will screw ya. Warranties can be made up to look real. How far away from you is it? If you have to have it hop on a plane see it yourself and buy it on the spot and drive it home. I've done that a bunch of times when I was playing with Vettes. The real good dealer will pick up at the airport.

How can the Ford gold warranty be faked? Only certified Ford dealers can offer that, and if you look at a dealers page, they might have 5 for sale that could be verified, but only ones got the certified warranty.
With the way things look, I'll have to get one delivered, or fly to it.

I absolutely hear what you're saying btw, and I have no desire to buy one sight unseen, but that might be a reality for me unfortunately.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Buy any car sight unseen....

As my dad used to say:

"Boy, is ya out ya friggin mind or what ?"
"Just what kind of dog food you been smokin anyways ?"

 

[Fastcar]

How can the Ford gold warranty be faked? Only certified Ford dealers can offer that, and if you look at a dealers page, they might have 5 for sale that could be verified, but only ones got the certified warranty.
With the way things look, I'll have to get one delivered, or fly to it.

I absolutely hear what you're saying btw, and I have no desire to buy one sight unseen, but that might be a reality for me unfortunately.

Not to beat this to death but all one has to do is watch the news. There are stories weekly about consumers being defrauded in one way or another. People make up bogus passports, license's, auto titles, property deeds, you name it and you can find somebody that will make up anything you want. Verify, verify.

 

[LegalBrief]

So my main question that really remains is, would you buy a vehicle sight unseen if it has the gold certified warranty?

Looks like your in TX you should know.. never to buy sight unseen, your surrounded with flood loss cars. Run

 

[VCFP153]

Ford warranty (or lack thereof) can be verified through any Ford dealer. The seller does not need to be involved.

 

[veedub]

Stay away from 4th Gen. Ford Expeditions until they fix the transmission issues. I’m sitting looking at a $9K transmission replacement on a 21 I purchased new. Will never buy another Ford.

 

[Maxine the Max]

The wife and i are looking at getting an expedition max, and I have a few questions.
I am looking for one with the HD tow package, and an 8 seater. Will probably do the rough country lift too, unless there's a better lift to go with that is in the same pricing ballpark.
The Ford gold certified warranty, does it cover the cam phasers issue, and the transmission issue? Is it worth specifically buying a vehicle that has this warranty, or not?
In between year models 19-22, is there one year that is better than the others? It seems in 22 some interior changes were made, but were there any drive train changes?
In 22 they did away with the automatic running boards, is there a reason for that? I know it's just something to fail, but we want them, so does that mean we would need to go aftermarket for the steps if we get a 22?

Is there a reason a 20 platinum is the same price as a 22 limited with the same amount of miles? What all does the platinum entail that a limited doesn't?

I think that is most of my questions I have, for now.
Thanks for the help in advance.

We have a 2019 Max Platinum. With HD tow. Absolutely love it! We bought it with 36,000 miles, two years ago. We have had zero issues. It is a 7 seater with the middle aisle. I hated flipping seats to get to the third row in my Taurus X. I insisted on the aisle so our kids could get in without moving seats.

 

[Dice Roll]

I’d be more inclined to just haggle for a better deal on a brand new one. You get all the updates that way, can be more sure of not getting screwed by buying sight unseen. Can be safe taking delivery of it from across the country. That’s what I did four years ago.

Updates include cdf drum, thermostat, cam phasers and maybe more I’m not thinking of. Plus you can add the extended warranty from flood ford or others pretty cheap after the fact. Cars aren’t selling real well this year, should be a deal out there waiting on you.

You absolutely want hd tow equipment on whatever you buy.

 

[Danm355]

The wife and i are looking at getting an expedition max, and I have a few questions.
I am looking for one with the HD tow package, and an 8 seater. Will probably do the rough country lift too, unless there's a better lift to go with that is in the same pricing ballpark.
The Ford gold certified warranty, does it cover the cam phasers issue, and the transmission issue? Is it worth specifically buying a vehicle that has this warranty, or not?
In between year models 19-22, is there one year that is better than the others? It seems in 22 some interior changes were made, but were there any drive train changes?
In 22 they did away with the automatic running boards, is there a reason for that? I know it's just something to fail, but we want them, so does that mean we would need to go aftermarket for the steps if we get a 22?

Is there a reason a 20 platinum is the same price as a 22 limited with the same amount of miles? What all does the platinum entail that a limited doesn't?

I think that is most of my questions I have, for now.
Thanks for the help in advance.

The only question I can answer is the running boards. I have a 2022 Platinum and I have the folding running boards so as far as I know they are still available.