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Damn_Ford,
No doubt. I lost all respect for CR after this report. It was IMO totaly useless. Then I search the net and find out the people at CR are pretty much "certified" SUV haters and biased against any domestic vehicle.
That is eveident by the marks they gave the imports. The Pilot is a great vehicle, I drove one and loved it. But it'll barely tow a row boat. That's why I didn't buy it.
The way the tow test should be done is highway cruise speeds up and down hills. This is where the X will get in the Hoes face. I think in those circumstances the X would out tow the Hoe. For instance my F350 Powerstroke would get smoked in a race with a Tahoe. But towing the Hoe wouldn't even stand a chance. This is ALL due to the big "T" (torque).
I just pulled my daughter-in-laws 4x4 1500 Ram back from Omaha to Oklahoma, on a 1500 lbs tow trailer. The total trailer weight was about 6,000. I literally set the cruise on 75 mph and the damned thing never shifted gears. All through the hills around KC. It was basically idling. On one stretch up a steep incline at 75 mph I depressed the accelerator to see what would happen. The f350 gradually started building speed climbing the hill. By the top I was up to 83 mph and gaining. All this was done around 2500 rpms.
When I towed the same truck with my Tahoe few years ago the Hoe pulled it ok but going up hills was a stretch. Push the pedal down and it would drop into 2nd and scream all the way up the hill at 4000-4500 rpm(unlike the torquey Powerstroke). Of course that where the Hoe develops it's torque. The difference was it LOST speed up those hills even stomping on the accelerator. Going into a hill at 75 mph by the time I got to the top my speed was down to 63-64mph. The hoe was huffing and puffing to accomplish the task.
Like kschaper said that kind of torque isn't sustainable. On a 500 mile trip something is going to give. The Chevy is built to peak torque 325 ft-lbs around 4000 rpm. The X on the other hand is designed more like my Powerstroke. It develops more torque than the Hoe (360 ft-lbs) at a much lower rpm....2500 to be precise. And that is sustainable at highway speeds. Of course the Powerstroke creates an ungawdly 500 ft-lbs which is enough to pulled large houses and most anything cemented into the ground with ease. But the Hp rating on the 7.8 L Powerstroke is only 235 Hp. Which shows that Hp ain't all it's cracked up to be when pulling is involved.
I getting ready to do some towing with my X. I'll be pulling 5-6000 on the road up hilss etc. I'll let you know what I figure out.
Cody
No doubt. I lost all respect for CR after this report. It was IMO totaly useless. Then I search the net and find out the people at CR are pretty much "certified" SUV haters and biased against any domestic vehicle.
That is eveident by the marks they gave the imports. The Pilot is a great vehicle, I drove one and loved it. But it'll barely tow a row boat. That's why I didn't buy it.
The way the tow test should be done is highway cruise speeds up and down hills. This is where the X will get in the Hoes face. I think in those circumstances the X would out tow the Hoe. For instance my F350 Powerstroke would get smoked in a race with a Tahoe. But towing the Hoe wouldn't even stand a chance. This is ALL due to the big "T" (torque).
I just pulled my daughter-in-laws 4x4 1500 Ram back from Omaha to Oklahoma, on a 1500 lbs tow trailer. The total trailer weight was about 6,000. I literally set the cruise on 75 mph and the damned thing never shifted gears. All through the hills around KC. It was basically idling. On one stretch up a steep incline at 75 mph I depressed the accelerator to see what would happen. The f350 gradually started building speed climbing the hill. By the top I was up to 83 mph and gaining. All this was done around 2500 rpms.
When I towed the same truck with my Tahoe few years ago the Hoe pulled it ok but going up hills was a stretch. Push the pedal down and it would drop into 2nd and scream all the way up the hill at 4000-4500 rpm(unlike the torquey Powerstroke). Of course that where the Hoe develops it's torque. The difference was it LOST speed up those hills even stomping on the accelerator. Going into a hill at 75 mph by the time I got to the top my speed was down to 63-64mph. The hoe was huffing and puffing to accomplish the task.
Like kschaper said that kind of torque isn't sustainable. On a 500 mile trip something is going to give. The Chevy is built to peak torque 325 ft-lbs around 4000 rpm. The X on the other hand is designed more like my Powerstroke. It develops more torque than the Hoe (360 ft-lbs) at a much lower rpm....2500 to be precise. And that is sustainable at highway speeds. Of course the Powerstroke creates an ungawdly 500 ft-lbs which is enough to pulled large houses and most anything cemented into the ground with ease. But the Hp rating on the 7.8 L Powerstroke is only 235 Hp. Which shows that Hp ain't all it's cracked up to be when pulling is involved.
I getting ready to do some towing with my X. I'll be pulling 5-6000 on the road up hilss etc. I'll let you know what I figure out.
Cody
