Barjrob1972
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According to http://www.justanswer.com/ford/6uyc1-ford-expedition-4x2-fpdm-2008-expedition.html it does not. Might be some useful info here for you.
'08 Exped will not start
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stamp11127
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It is interesting how you can get conflicting info on the web, who would figure???
Check out Dorman's web site:
Dorman Products - 590-001
According to them the application is 2004-2011 for Ford. I guess the only way to tell would be to drop the spare and see. Other threads I've read on this problem have stated a connector inside the tank burns when the fuel level drops lower than 1/4 tank.
To the OP, if you have around 100,000 miles on the Expy it wouldn't hurt to change the pump just as a preventative measure and to check the condition of the connectors. See pics in the following link:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1171069-2007-expedition-fuel-pump-driver-control-module.html
Check out Dorman's web site:
Dorman Products - 590-001
According to them the application is 2004-2011 for Ford. I guess the only way to tell would be to drop the spare and see. Other threads I've read on this problem have stated a connector inside the tank burns when the fuel level drops lower than 1/4 tank.
To the OP, if you have around 100,000 miles on the Expy it wouldn't hurt to change the pump just as a preventative measure and to check the condition of the connectors. See pics in the following link:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1171069-2007-expedition-fuel-pump-driver-control-module.html
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broncoremy
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I applied 12 VDC to the pump and got nothing.
Worked at getting the fuel tank out to check the fuel pump. Have the tank out and on the ground with all connections to the tank removed, except for one ribbed, flexible vent tube that I cannot see how to disconnect from the tank. The view in the picture is from the back of the fuel tank looking forward.
How do I remove this connection from the tank so I can get it out from under the Expy?
Thank you.
the bottom caption for the picture should read:
"... goes to a connection on the middle ..."
not
"... goes to the a connection on the middle ..."
Worked at getting the fuel tank out to check the fuel pump. Have the tank out and on the ground with all connections to the tank removed, except for one ribbed, flexible vent tube that I cannot see how to disconnect from the tank. The view in the picture is from the back of the fuel tank looking forward.
How do I remove this connection from the tank so I can get it out from under the Expy?
Thank you.
the bottom caption for the picture should read:
"... goes to a connection on the middle ..."
not
"... goes to the a connection on the middle ..."
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stamp11127
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Can't tell what type of connection was used without seeing the ends of the hose. One my first gen it was a combination of hose clamps and quick disconnects.
broncoremy
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I do not see any type of disconnect on this line at the back of the tank. It runs under what looks like a protective shield for rocks and debris that is on the driveshaft side of the tank. Maybe I need to remove this shield?
Here is a picture of the connection I am referring to on the fuel pump.
Here is a picture of the connection I am referring to on the fuel pump.
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stamp11127
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PM with your email address and I'll send you some info. Ford used 3 types of disconnects and if you break any of them it can become expensive to fix.
broncoremy
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The hose mentioned in my previous posts is just a vent to atmosphere. It ran up to the top of the fuel filler neck and was not connected to anything.
So, tank is out. Pump is out of the tank and it is melted like others have mentioned.
If I can get the part, it looks like it is just the pump motor that is melted.
The melted pump is marked as
Walbro
7L14-9350-CD
F10000275
Quickly searching for these part numbers did not find anything.
Anyone able to find the pump motor and replace it with success?
So, tank is out. Pump is out of the tank and it is melted like others have mentioned.
If I can get the part, it looks like it is just the pump motor that is melted.
The melted pump is marked as
Walbro
7L14-9350-CD
F10000275
Quickly searching for these part numbers did not find anything.
Anyone able to find the pump motor and replace it with success?
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RI-Matt
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The Ford part # for the 2008 Expedition fuel pump w/ sending unit should be.
# 8L1Z-9H307-B
Matt
# 8L1Z-9H307-B
Matt
broncoremy
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Fuel pump replaced and vehicle now running. Had the Expy running for about an hour and the motor sounds fine.
I ran out of time looking for a replacement for the fuel pump itself and had to spring for the whole assembly to get the truck back on the road.
I bought the Precision Fuel Pump from Oreillys. The Fuel Pump Module Assembly is
part number A33110. I bought this one because I found it in stock locally so I could get my hands/eyes on it to compare and ensure it was the correct assembly.
There is also another similar assembly for the larger fuel tank, so be sure you get the correct one for the fuel tank size you have. That other part number for a similar Precision pump assembly is A30019. This model is for the EL Expy and, I assume, for the 33 gallon fuel tank. I was able to look them both over and they appeared similar. I went with the one that was identical, the A33110. Again, be sure you get the proper one for your tank. I have no skin in the game for Precision. I don't know them from the others but, again, I got it because I could get my eyes on those parts at the counter.
Thanks to you all for great help.
I ran out of time looking for a replacement for the fuel pump itself and had to spring for the whole assembly to get the truck back on the road.
I bought the Precision Fuel Pump from Oreillys. The Fuel Pump Module Assembly is
part number A33110. I bought this one because I found it in stock locally so I could get my hands/eyes on it to compare and ensure it was the correct assembly.
There is also another similar assembly for the larger fuel tank, so be sure you get the correct one for the fuel tank size you have. That other part number for a similar Precision pump assembly is A30019. This model is for the EL Expy and, I assume, for the 33 gallon fuel tank. I was able to look them both over and they appeared similar. I went with the one that was identical, the A33110. Again, be sure you get the proper one for your tank. I have no skin in the game for Precision. I don't know them from the others but, again, I got it because I could get my eyes on those parts at the counter.
Thanks to you all for great help.
B
bedrck46
thanks for the update and part number information
broncoremy
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For those interested, most of my search for the fuel pump itself centered on the Denso line of pumps. They have over 400 similar pump part numbers to the one that melted in the Expy, but none of them will match directly to the 2007-2008 Expys.
I tried to get a match so I could be confident in what I ordered, but I was not able to in the time I had. As outlined above, eventually I ran out of time and had to spring for the $320 assembly.
If you have interest and run into this problem, the part number line that I was looking into was the Denso part number 951-0007, 951-0008 or 950-0171. There are plenty of other numbers and just about all of them look exactly the same.
There were other lines that have similar pumps, but the story was the same -- no match for the '07-'08 Expy. If you would like to pursue, you might look up part numbers HFP-342 or HFP-367 or HFP-382.
A local store that carried these Denso fuel pumps or others would have been great, but I could not find one.
Know this... If you are able to get the tank out of the truck and the pump assembly out of the tank, replacing the fuel pump itself in the pump assembly should not be a problem for you.
If you find a match or find one of these that works, you would save a good pile of coins if you have the same problem I did. I ran out of time while looking though.
Good luck. As always, YMMV.
I tried to get a match so I could be confident in what I ordered, but I was not able to in the time I had. As outlined above, eventually I ran out of time and had to spring for the $320 assembly.
If you have interest and run into this problem, the part number line that I was looking into was the Denso part number 951-0007, 951-0008 or 950-0171. There are plenty of other numbers and just about all of them look exactly the same.
There were other lines that have similar pumps, but the story was the same -- no match for the '07-'08 Expy. If you would like to pursue, you might look up part numbers HFP-342 or HFP-367 or HFP-382.
A local store that carried these Denso fuel pumps or others would have been great, but I could not find one.
Know this... If you are able to get the tank out of the truck and the pump assembly out of the tank, replacing the fuel pump itself in the pump assembly should not be a problem for you.
If you find a match or find one of these that works, you would save a good pile of coins if you have the same problem I did. I ran out of time while looking though.
Good luck. As always, YMMV.
