2021 XLT FX4 Halogens - Help!

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Been awhile since I installed mine. I remember that the manual had a misprint saying the low/high beams are bulb size ***, but in reality what was listed for low was really high beams & Vice versa. So for your issue try putting them were the wire harnesses click have the diodes Parallel to the deck/ground & see how it turns out. I think this happened to me but, 1.6 years has passed.
So you think the bulbs are mislabeled?
 
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Here are the labels and plugs on both high and low beam. IF 9005 is the low beam you can see they have it labeled as the high beam but the number and plug are the Low Beam, right?A935F415-CD09-4526-A05A-BE5052F1E3DE.jpeg907ECD35-B38C-464C-A7C0-97BAF7A894F9.jpeg
Which then means the reverse for how they marked the High Beam - if H11 is the high beam that is the high beam plug and number but the label says Low Beam?
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I think they’re trying to make me crazy!
 
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So, should I send these back or just assume that the label is wrong but the plug is right for the low beam/High beam?
isn’t the H 11 the low beam and the 9005 the high beam? Or do I have it backwards?
If that’s the case then the numbering and label is correct but just on the wrong bulb altogether.
 

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So, should I send these back or just assume that the label is wrong but the plug is right for the low beam/High beam?
isn’t the H 11 the low beam and the 9005 the high beam? Or do I have it backwards?
If that’s the case then the numbering and label is correct but just on the wrong bulb altogether.
I put the same set in 2 weeks ago. The labels were backwards. I just switched them and threw them in. The housings will only take one of the bulbs, hi and lo have different threads so they only fit the specific ones.
 
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I put the same set in 2 weeks ago. The labels were backwards. I just switched them and threw them in. The housings will only take one of the bulbs, hi and lo have different threads so they only fit the specific ones.
Ok good to know. Thanks.
 

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He’s right. Also if you look at the numbers on the bulbs you took out of the headlight housing you’ll see the numbers are switched from what the owners manual said. On the 18-19 MY this was a thing.
 
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So just ignore the labels and install them as they fit right?
I stopped the installation yesterday so given what you guys are saying, I can just move forward because the bulb threads and plugs only fit in the correct socket regardless.
Thanks for the help!
 

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So just ignore the labels and install them as they fit right?
I stopped the installation yesterday so given what you guys are saying, I can just move forward because the bulb threads and plugs only fit in the correct socket regardless.
Thanks for the help!
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Following as I just bought a 2021 XLT Max this week, drove it 100 miles home in the rain and could not see the road. I've had Suburbans for 30 years but based on how happy we are with our 2020 Edge I decided to buy an Expedition. I would have never bought it if I had driven it at night first. My old 2013 Suburban has better headlights. I'm seeing the dealer on Friday and will find out their suggestions.
 

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Following as I just bought a 2021 XLT Max this week, drove it 100 miles home in the rain and could not see the road. I've had Suburbans for 30 years but based on how happy we are with our 2020 Edge I decided to buy an Expedition. I would have never bought it if I had driven it at night first. My old 2013 Suburban has better headlights. I'm seeing the dealer on Friday and will find out their suggestions.
They’re going to tell you it’s fine. These are halogen reflector housings. Halogen lighting tech doesn’t put out a lot of lumen (brightness) or lux (distance thrown) like LED or HID lights do and they are hindered even more in a projector housing vs a reflector housing. You can go aftermarket HID or LED for relatively little money but the cheaper the light the poorer the material quality and beam pattern will be. If you want to spend $1,500-$2,500 you can purchase the LED light housings and aftermarket harnesses, plus have the dealer update the programming to accept them.
 
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Got them installed today. Once I got access through the wheel well the bulb change was pretty straightforward. But the LEDs are an enormous improvement. See the picture below of the LED on the left and the factory halogen on the right. White light vs yellow.
It’s amazing that Ford would actually put those halogen bulbs in any vehicle.
Very happy with the swap.69EA10B9-60C4-4DEF-9C52-6ADF7C6A99D4.jpeg8535D1EB-A012-4BAF-B2C3-8142FD37DB25.jpeg
 

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Got them installed today. Once I got access through the wheel well the bulb change was pretty straightforward. But the LEDs are an enormous improvement. See the picture below of the LED on the left and the factory halogen on the right. White light vs yellow.
It’s amazing that Ford would actually put those halogen bulbs in any vehicle.
Very happy with the swap.View attachment 71744View attachment 71745

How is the night time driving experience improved? Besides being a white light, does it illuminate further down the road? Wider beam?

I upgraded the halogen bulbs on my 2019 XLT, but I still avoid nighttime road trips if I can. Something I never give a second thought in other cars.
 
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How is the night time driving experience improved? Besides being a white light, does it illuminate further down the road? Wider beam?

I upgraded the halogen bulbs on my 2019 XLT, but I still avoid nighttime road trips if I can. Something I never give a second thought in other cars.
Sorry been busy! The difference driving is unbelievable! Brighter, cleaner light with much more light down the road! I’m doing the fogs next for sure!
This pic is the high beams.
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I think that LED lamps are the future
but
I have one question
most of the not oem LED have thair own cooling system (small radiator on the back) becouse the back part is getting very hot
I read in one of the automobile magzins that after some time in the lamps which are hermetic (full closed) it starts to be a situation that the lamps inside are starting to be darker
 

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Yes, high heat is a killer for electronics. So, LEDs so have fans on a lot of them to remove some of that heat. And yes, the heat can cause them to dim/fail (not that I’ve ever experienced any dimming). Halogens and HIDs fail, also.

But, they are replaceable. 5 years down the line, replace them with newer generation bulbs. Don’t sweat it.
 

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in Eupore most of the LED are totally faiulers
few weeks and thay are demaged or start to dim...

only one that i got as a good one are Philips Ultinon Pro9000 LED
and probably i will go for them

but thay do not have such a kit - just replace the old bulb with new LED
 

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in Eupore most of the LED are totally faiulers
few weeks and thay are demaged or start to dim...

only one that i got as a good one are Philips Ultinon Pro9000 LED
and probably i will go for them

but thay do not have such a kit - just replace the old bulb with new LED
I'm currently running the Philips Ultinon Pro9000 bulbs here in the US. Had to have them shipped from the UK. They may not be as bright as all the Chinese made Amazon units but the cut-off and beam pattern is spot on. I have a little shadowing affect, directly below the light housing, due to the blade design but that's it. Also they are a 5700K color and more white than the blue colored 6000+K bulbs found on Amazon.
 

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I'm currently running the Philips Ultinon Pro9000 bulbs here in the US. Had to have them shipped from the UK. They may not be as bright as all the Chinese made Amazon units but the cut-off and beam pattern is spot on. I have a little shadowing affect, directly below the light housing, due to the blade design but that's it. Also they are a 5700K color and more white than the blue colored 6000+K bulbs found on Amazon.

@apex96 please post a pic of your light pattern & the front grill with these lights on. I'd like to see this warmer color of 5700K. TIA!
 
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