5 speed expedition?

[spolcyn]

Hey All,
I just ordered a ZF5 that I plan to install into my 2001 Expedition. I already have a pedal set, and it looks like the expe tranfer will bolt right up. What I need to figure out now is the computer. Does any one have any thoughts on how the computer is going to react to the lack of trans inputs? I assume I will be able jumper out the input for the neutral safety. I am not concerned with a check engine light, it has been on for years.
Thanks in advance,
spolcyn

 

[nvycrmn]

hmmm, no idea but sounds like a pretty cool idea. why the 5 speed? you do lots of offroading?

 

[tonydiv]

If you're going to all that trouble, you may just want to go to a stand alone ecu. The guys on 'Trucks' just used one when they swapped in a Marauder 32v motor and a manual trans in to a Ranger. It used the stock harness.

I think it would be easier than trying to figure out what was going on with the stock computer.


What bell housing, clutch, flywheel and shifter are you using?

 

[joezek]

You may be able to use the shift position sensor to tell the computer that your in Drive, and have a start over ride some how by using the wiring schematics. I still think without the output sensor from the transmission, your gonna have a wierd acting computer, and possibly abs lights.

The standalone computer idea sounds good if you know a shop that can program it. Or possibly a shop can reprogram your computer to ignore the error codes thrown by a missing transmission signal. For instance, I have the SCT tuner and my tuner was able to basically make the check engine light completely stop giving me O2 sensor codes caused by emptied converters.

 

[spolcyn]

nvycrmn,
Not much off-roading of the expe, but I use it to tow my off-roader, a 74 bronco. I just hate automatics. Think about how much fun it would be to bang gears in that big ol ride of yours.
tonydiv,
I am not certain what you mean, a stand alone ECU. I could buy an ECU from a manual shift 5.4 F-250. I am using a trans out of a 2001 F-250 SD with a 5.4. It is a ZF 5 speed (S5 47M) and the bellhousing is part of the casting. I ordered a new clutch and a flywheel for the same vehicle. I hope the shifter comes with the used tranny I am currently waiting to arrive. The pedals are out of a manual shift F-150. Also odered a body lift to give a little clearance underneath.
joezek,
Thank you for the info. I can clearly see that this is going to get interesting.
Thank All,
spolcyn

 

[nvycrmn]

not gonna lie, 5 speed expy would be fun. but not more than that 74 bronco of yours! post up some pics of that beast. i mean hey, expeditions are just a newer version of the bronco!!!!

 

[joezek]

I wonder if there will be more problems with the F250 computer because it has to communicate with all the other computers. There's the ABS computer, body control module etc. I think they're all seperate, and could be communication issues. Then again, since they're both Ford, maybe the communication is not a problem.

 

[spolcyn]

Hey nvycrmn,
Here are a couple of pictures of the ol bronco. She is not much to look at but she is quite the trail rig. Until I get the expe done she also is my daily driver. It is a good thing that I live close to work (bad road manners).

 

[nvycrmn]

she's a beauty!!!!!!!! i have wanted one for so long. just dont have the garage space yet for one. but i will in the next couple years.

 

[nhoffman94]

what was the outcome, did u d the swap, can u post some pics of the final product?